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So y'all own all those radar installations across the world and put up those weather balloons and that kinda stuff? NWS is just a front?

Amazing, I don't see how you or they avoid the barely submerged trees and boulders, brand new bars etc. I'd have thought most rivers have a new set of hazards after every rain, but, I have no experience on bigger rivers. If wading puts me in the path of a 50+mph boat I guess I don't want to.

Do you guys run 50mph on the rivers?

is such lighting required, or are you just suggesting that it's possible? Would such an led help at all in day light or when waves obscure the kayak? Did they ever say why this man drowned? collision, fell off the board, wind/wave action?

When that happens will the bass boater be charged? or is it just another a suicide? don't paddle craft and sailboats have ROW?

When I lived in a NE city 40 years ago. most of the "shelters" in the area cremated after 5-7 days. Our city pound only kept animals three days. The only neutering was if the animal got adopted and then the new "parent" paid the bill. But, I have read of programs where people rounded up stray cats and neutered them then released them back into the wild to continue as a nuisance. I favor cremation over neutering for all strays.

You think the 12' boat could carry the 300# driver and the 40HP? Do you think a 40-50-70 HP cap would remove the 40' boats from the fishing lakes? would limiting speed through HP affect the erosion/wake boats? When the legislators step in eventually, they are going to be for the most part non boaters who will set limits on whatever they decide to limit with "an abundance of caution", and while you are correct in being careful what you wish for, it might befit anglers to examine the minimum/maximum HP needed to bring back a limit of fish rather than that needed to set new speed records, then self regulate as a group by setting "safe for dummies" HP limits in the tourneys. There is no way to keep boats or cars from being operated at WOT, but it's not all that hard to regulate what power WOT can generate. If the power limitation is below what 40' cruisers or high wake boats require, angers won't have to deal with them. Personally I don't much care, it's sad when people commit suicide by HP, but they did it to themselves. When people put themselves at risk it's hard to blame the dealer. When Walmart sells a kid a kayak they don't give lessons on white water or warn against being mid-lake on tournament day.

Aren't no speed limit and no drivers license on water holdovers from the days of row boats and small outboards? When enough people die the laws will change? I imagine the simplest speed limit is a horsepower limitation. How fast does a 40HP go? is it as fast as 400HP?

I just looked that up- 22 Ok. Parks charge, didn't find a list of those that don't. But if you are going there often enough they have an annual pass for $75 I wonder what portion of that money actually goes to the park maintenance it was implemented for and how much goes to the vendor that does the collection, furnishes the kiosks and runs the website. My guess is the vendor gets the big part. eta- further search found 8 parks that don't charge parking and if you lease a slip you get one parking hangtag for the lease period.

The $10 isn't a launch fee, it's parking anywhere in the Park fee. I went to an event up on the hill a couple years ago in one of the pavilions and on top of the pavilion fee each car/truck had to pay the parking fee. That came to a few $hundred for the group. I understood that to be required in all the Ok state parks now. It makes me want to avoid them.

Climbed up behind the house yesterday (Sat) afternoon with daughter and soninlaw we only found 43, two were gray, and I didn't take any pictures. But, if I can find a few, there are lots more out here for the guys with sharp eyes. All looked like fresh sprouted and I didn't see any bugs either. I did not see any drying up specimens at all.

Moon phase matters, it's position relative to me matters, but those aren't the only considerations.

White is not a good color for prey animals, it would get killed by nature soon enough. Probably a good thing to remove those genes from the pool. There used to be a lot of pied turkeys over the hill, but I remember when they were ranging white turkeys outside and always figured those pied birds were domestic cross.

I once cleared about three acres one summer for pasture and the next summer had dogwoods as thick as if they had been sown there. We used to love the wild plums for jelly, but could never get them to spread and they eventually died out. Biggest native problem I have in yard and garden is trumpet creeper, it is the most persistent plant on the farm and roots must be deeper than tress, kill one branch and it makes 18 more. Pretty in a tree, not so pretty when in the flower garden or smothering the termaters.

native in central USA, throughout Mo. but are invasive in other places

Pickerel back east where I used to catch them always hung out in quieter water and preferred weed beds , though many experts recommended wire bite tippet I caught many pickerel while fishing for largemouth with 6-8# nylon. And one magazine article about 1979 recommended tippet fine enough to "floss" the teeth, that worked as well as heavier tippet did. I fished parallel to weed bed edges with bucktails and featherwing streamers or plop in the middle of a weed bed with a hair frog. I suspect I caught more pickerel on the Mickey Finn than on any other fly.

they have a beetle that kills that, one of the cattlemen brought some to a place some miles from me 20? years ago and they found my thistle the second year, I think they got it all.

Not in the numbers I'm seeing, unless you put an army out and worked the country over a section at a time, grid basis. Then did an annual follow up for several years. No knowing how long the seeds can remain viable in the wild. Herbicide would probably be a better approach than cutting though if it prevented sprouting.

Noticed on a trip to Joplin a few days ago that there 10-15 times as many this years as last year and 10 years ago I didn't know what they were. Way more pears in the woods than I ever saw of dogwood. At this point it's a waste of time energy and money to have a buy back, although I would help someone by cutting some the things down. A drive over to Branson last year at this time convinced me that it's too late to close that barn door. Need a species specific disease or insect, but then that would go wrong too.

I didn't understand that all the other hooks were clipped, might consider shanks for those. Might also consider tying one of the Clousers as an unweighted bucktail depending on how it casts and swims. Interesting experiment.

Aren't we limited to three hooks? Long time ago back east I messed around with a lot of three fly and five fly teams of wets and although I caught fish with them, it was like wrench said I would have likely caught the same fish with a single fly. Sometimes they eat and some times they don't.

Jason Borger did the Shadow Casting in that movie. I read that the cast sequence is a "Galway Cast" into a "Pendulum Cast" into a "Climbing Hook Cast" into the "Forward Cast". I'm not certain I know what a "Climbing Hook Cast" even is. I didn't care much for the movie, but, I had read the book when it was first published and didn't think it had much to do with fishing either. The story I read told about a dysfunctional family and a kid that grew up to have his hands smashed one bone at a time by gangsters, then was killed. I guess either he was a tricky card player or had sticky fingers, wasn't clear to me. But, I took it that the fishing was kinda like the drinking and the date, just peripheral incidents. then the movie was all about the casting and not so much about the book. Or maybe I missed the point of both. I used to read all the time and I think I probably heard of/read most of the fly fishing authors that had published before ca2000, so thought I should have read Tryon, I don't keep up as much since then maybe, as there are more and new ones each year and I have taken to reading fiction.

At $300 on eBay, $400 on Abe Books and $764 on Amazon, I would not personally think of it as a "beginner's book", or a must have. I had it on a couple of watch-lists for a couple of years then stopped looking for it.

Oh, we need to know so little that anyone could write the book? I had thought maybe it was a case of the old "those that can, do; those that can't, teach" adage. Then again maybe Sharon wrote the books, her name is on them too. I've never seen them or their books, but a few years ago some post got me interested in the Mo. smallmouth book and in looking for it I saw the others and a couple of movie books too. I had never heard of the guy until I started reading this forum. I've still never heard of him outside of this forum except when searching for the book. The flies look pretty fishy to me.

I saw this the other day https://forums.ozarkanglers.com/topic/74875-grand-lake/ and was going to send you there to get the latest GL posts, but it turns out that is you too. Fish attractor maps- https://odwc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6613bad4c466457796d30859335af81f you should search "grand lake Ok fishing" and look for facebook groups to join