Members Grappling Coach Posted July 9, 2015 Members Posted July 9, 2015 Y'all may hammer me, but I have a theory on the no-scoring idea.... It's for the parents - not the children. The children want to play and that's about it. The parents don't want to "lose" to the other parents, so we just say "MY Child is a winner no matter what" - so that "WE" save face. Quick semi-resume (coaching - strictly rec leagues) so at least you'll know from where I draw my opinion: 15 years t-ball through senior Babe Ruth baseball 5 years basketball (1st grade through 6th grade) 2 years football (3rd / 4th graders) 3 years 5th grade through 9th grade small group at church. I really think it's still all about the parents... In a letter to parents, Mike Matheny stated that he always said that the only little league team that he would ever coach was a team of orphans. The biggest problem in youth sports is parents. winning and losing is a part of sports that kids can deal with. However, psycho mom and dad can't. Another problem with youth sports is that there is no way to know how kids are going to develop physically and mentally over time. The kids that dominate as 8 - 13 year olds are often physically ahead of the other kids. As they come in to high school, everyone else catches up to them and they are often not successful. However, an average kid may work hard and grow in to a big strong athlete who will stomp the kid that ruled in pee wees once in high school. I could care less if I ever have an 8 year old state Champion. I want kids to stick with their sports and become high school and college athletes. If that average kid quits before he gets to high school because of his parents, or an idiot coach, we will never know what he could have been. There is an interesting philosophy called long term athletic development or LTAD. We want kids to develop into athletes over time and play at the highest levels. If you take a notion, Google long term athletic development. Flysmallie, dtrs5kprs, OldMillRoad and 1 other 4
Flysmallie Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 It seems like a almost unsurmoutable task. It's really not that hard. Hasn't been for me anyway. But my wife and I are fully involved with our kids. We aren't asking any coaches to go lightly on them. We want them to win as well as lose. They know what it's like to struggle with something but be rewarded in the end. The ones that have the insurmountable task are the ones that are trying to live their dreams through the lives of their children. I see plenty of those parents. I feel sorry for them and especially their kids. Daryk Campbell Sr, Champ188 and dtrs5kprs 3 Â Â
dtrs5kprs Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 In a letter to parents, Mike Matheny stated that he always said that the only little league team that he would ever coach was a team of orphans. The biggest problem in youth sports is parents. winning and losing is a part of sports that kids can deal with. However, psycho mom and dad can't. Another problem with youth sports is that there is no way to know how kids are going to develop physically and mentally over time. The kids that dominate as 8 - 13 year olds are often physically ahead of the other kids. As they come in to high school, everyone else catches up to them and they are often not successful. However, an average kid may work hard and grow in to a big strong athlete who will stomp the kid that ruled in pee wees once in high school. I could care less if I ever have an 8 year old state Champion. I want kids to stick with their sports and become high school and college athletes. If that average kid quits before he gets to high school because of his parents, or an idiot coach, we will never know what he could have been. There is an interesting philosophy called long term athletic development or LTAD. We want kids to develop into athletes over time and play at the highest levels. If you take a notion, Google long term athletic development. Right on, start to finish.
OldMillRoad Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 In a letter to parents, Mike Matheny stated that he always said that the only little league team that he would ever coach was a team of orphans. The biggest problem in youth sports is parents. winning and losing is a part of sports that kids can deal with. However, psycho mom and dad can't. Another problem with youth sports is that there is no way to know how kids are going to develop physically and mentally over time. The kids that dominate as 8 - 13 year olds are often physically ahead of the other kids. As they come in to high school, everyone else catches up to them and they are often not successful. However, an average kid may work hard and grow in to a big strong athlete who will stomp the kid that ruled in pee wees once in high school. I could care less if I ever have an 8 year old state Champion. I want kids to stick with their sports and become high school and college athletes. If that average kid quits before he gets to high school because of his parents, or an idiot coach, we will never know what he could have been. There is an interesting philosophy called long term athletic development or LTAD. We want kids to develop into athletes over time and play at the highest levels. If you take a notion, Google long term athletic development. I agree totally, I have witnessed the "catch up" game many times. Since a very small percentage of people actually turn their athleticism into a life sustaining career, I believe the importance of sports is to teach children how to transition into everyday life. Overcoming adversity, success, failure, problem solving, and just being a decent human being. We all answer to someone sooner or later, how we choose to interact is up to us. If we can positively reach a few kids its totally worth it. magicwormman, Champ188 and merc1997 Bo 3
dtrs5kprs Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 I agree totally, I have witnessed the "catch up" game many times. Since a very small percentage of people actually turn their athleticism into a life sustaining career, I believe the importance of sports is to teach children how to transition into everyday life. Overcoming adversity, success, failure, problem solving, and just being a decent human being. We all answer to someone sooner or later, how we choose to interact is up to us. If we can positively reach a few kids its totally worth it. Absolutely. "Hard Coaching" (seemingly the new catchphrase for having expectations and holding players accountable- used to just mean coaching) is what gets kids ready for the realities of life. Champ188 and magicwormman 2
mjk86 Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Yeah!!! You punk kids get off my lawn!! Old folks griping about "kids these days" the ancient cycle. Dont you think our parents/grandparents thought the same thing about all of us, no matter what your age is? All kids are little ******* and they always have been. The world will keep spinning, and the kids now will be old and complaining about how the kids now dont have any respect for adults these days. My opinion is that future generations will be kinder, more open, and more tolerant to others differences than any other generation in the history of human kind. David Unnerstall 1
Champ188 Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 My opinion is that future generations will be kinder, more open, and more tolerant to others differences than any other generation in the history of human kind. There's a fine line between tolerance for differences and tolerance for what is downright wrong and detrimental to society. We have definitely crossed that line a while back and all the kum-ba-yah in the world isn't going to bring us back. abkeenan, OldMillRoad, merc1997 Bo and 3 others 6
mjk86 Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 There's a fine line between tolerance for differences and tolerance for what is downright wrong and detrimental to society. We have definitely crossed that line a while back and all the kum-ba-yah in the world isn't going to bring us back. I could not disagree with you any more.
Champ188 Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 I could not disagree with you any more. We do often find ourselves across the fence from each other. That's OK, though, because I am tolerant of our differences. Flysmallie, denjac and mjk86 3
MOPanfisher Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Just my humble opinion, I grew up strict (WWII Vet Father), and have been at times strict with my kids on some issue and more open on others. I honestly believe that the next 20-30 years will be the saving (or perhaps the loss) of our nation and culture. I also believe that there will be a huge gap opening up in the societal fabric. Those kids who learned that there are jobs out there for hard workers willing to work their butts off and learn, and opportunities to improve, will move forward and improve their lot in life. Those who never learned those principles I fear are doomed to a life of low income and feeling of being cheated somehow. I am also going to trust my kids generation to clean up politics as it has currently become an embarrassment to the entire nation. Just my humble opinion, I will go take my meds now. dtrs5kprs, Champ188, magicwormman and 1 other 4
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