fishinwrench Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Yeah really. If that's the case then when you see an agent just dump your fish and avoid prosecution. Easy peasy.
Smalliebigs Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 On 11/22/2015, 11:35:39, fishinwrench said: Bad as I hate to say it, that is a really good reason to outlaw gigging entirely. If you stick it then it should be included in your creel. Can you sit there and pick off Woodpeckers and bluejays while squirrel hunting too ? Just for target practice. That is pretty much why most every other state has outlawed gigging......some just can't control their urges to stick game fish and others are too stupid to be able to identify or at least be sure before they stick.......which if you are an ethical hunter is a huge detail......never shoot if it is suspect in anyway. We see dead bass all the time in the winter that were victims of stupid and un ethical giggers or as Wrench says if you are poaching and you see some sign of authorities you just dump the meat.
MOPanfisher Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 It always seems to me that there only two kinds of giggers, those who scrupulously follow the laws and those who stick anything and everything. Novices in the first group quickly learn to identify fish types or they are not allowed to gig any more. Second group doesn't matter if it swims it's fair game. Another good reason for hitting them at takeout point, harder to get rid of illegal fish cut when boat is on the trailer in the parking lot.
fishinwrench Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 .Alot of gigging party's have fish frys on a gravel bar. I've seen the remnants afterwards on winter floats and plenty of those heads aren't suckers. I have no doubt that they prefer suckers, but they loaded up all the cooking stuff, drinks, and side dishes....so you can bet your butt they are gonna have a fish fry whether the suckers are plentiful or not. Mitch f 1
bfishn Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 On 11/23/2015, 11:37:35, Smalliebigs said: That is pretty much why most every other state has outlawed gigging... Horse Hockey. Missouri's gigging law aligns well with all the surrounding states: Kansas SPEARFISHING & GIGGING Unless otherwise posted, spearguns, without explosive charge, may be used to take nonsport fish in waters posted “open to scuba and skin diving.” Spears must be attached to speargun or person by a line. Nonsport fish may also be taken by gigging in waters not posted as closed to gigging. Arkansas Gigging is defined as taking fish with a three- or four-pronged, barbed device on a shaft. Only rough fish [gar, bowfin, common carp, Asian carp (grass carp, bighead carp, silver carp), suckers (including buffalo), bullhead and drum] may be taken with a gig. Statewide gigging season is 10 a.m.-midnight, from Sept. 15-Feb. 15. An Alligator Gar Permit is required to take alligator gar. Only one alligator gar may be taken per 24 hour period. The daily limit of suckers taken by gigging is 20, the possession limit is 40. Gigging is not allowed in areas where fishing is limited to rod or pole. Illinois Legal Methods of Taking Carp, buffalo, suckers, gar, shad, drum and bowfin may be taken by means of a pitchfork, underwater spear gun, bow and arrow or bow and arrow device, spear or gig. Each person taking fish by these means shall possess a valid sport fishing license. Fish taken by these means shall not be sold or bartered. No other fish may be taken in this State by these means. Oklahoma Gig, Grabhook, Spear and Speargun: Gigs and spears are legal for taking nongame fish and white bass only… Gigs, spears and spearguns shall: • not contain more than three points with no more than two barbs on each point; • be lawful in all rivers and streams from Dec. 1 through March 31, and year-round in all reservoirs, unless restricted under “Special Area Regulations;” • Gigs shall be lawful year-round in rivers and streams in Delaware and Mayes counties, unless restricted under “Special Area Regulations.” Tennessee GIGGING, GRABBLING, GRAB HOOKING, SNAGGING, TUBBING, ARCHERY, SPEAR-GUN FISHING, DIPPING, AND CAST NETTING. A. Season open year-round except as noted below. B. All waters open except: 1. Within 100 yards below dams except at Pickwick the closed area will extend downstream to the first moorage cell located across from the boat launching ramp. At John Sevier Steam Plant the discharge channel is also closed. Dipping and cast netting are excluded from this restriction. 2. Those areas closed to fishing listed in Section II. … Iowa BOW FISHING & SPEARING A valid sport fishing license allows you to take rough fish (p.13) and frogs by bow and arrow and spear. Bow fishing and spearing are allowed on public lakes, reservoirs and rivers, private ponds with permission, and border waters described on p. 16. Additional regulations specific to bow fishing and spearing may exist in some state parks, federal refuges, and lakes controlled by city and county governments. Kentucky GIGGING AND SNAGGING FISH Gigging means spearing or impaling fish on any pronged or barbed instrument attached to the end of any rigid object. The statewide season for gigging and/or snagging rough fish is from February 1 through May 10. It is illegal to possess a gig on a stream or lake or in a boat from November 1 through January 31. A person may gig or snag fish from the bank of a stream during the day or night. Gigging and snagging is not legal from a platform, except that gigging is legal from a boat on lakes 500 surface acres or larger and only during daylight hours… Persons may gig rough fish through the ice any time the surface is frozen thick enough to stand upon. The gigger must gig while supported by the ice. Gigging and snagging are prohibited in the following waters or areas:… ADDED (forgot to include NE in "surrounding states") Nebraska SEASONS FOR 2015 ...Surface Spearfishing: Year-round for nongame fish only... awhuber, grizwilson, Seth and 1 other 4 I can't dance like I used to.
mjk86 Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 5 hours ago, bfishn said: Horse Hockey. Missouri's gigging law aligns well with all the surrounding states: Kansas SPEARFISHING & GIGGING Unless otherwise posted, spearguns, without explosive charge, may be used to take nonsport fish in waters posted “open to scuba and skin diving.” Spears must be attached to speargun or person by a line. Nonsport fish may also be taken by gigging in waters not posted as closed to gigging. Arkansas Gigging is defined as taking fish with a three- or four-pronged, barbed device on a shaft. Only rough fish [gar, bowfin, common carp, Asian carp (grass carp, bighead carp, silver carp), suckers (including buffalo), bullhead and drum] may be taken with a gig. Statewide gigging season is 10 a.m.-midnight, from Sept. 15-Feb. 15. An Alligator Gar Permit is required to take alligator gar. Only one alligator gar may be taken per 24 hour period. The daily limit of suckers taken by gigging is 20, the possession limit is 40. Gigging is not allowed in areas where fishing is limited to rod or pole. Illinois Legal Methods of Taking Carp, buffalo, suckers, gar, shad, drum and bowfin may be taken by means of a pitchfork, underwater spear gun, bow and arrow or bow and arrow device, spear or gig. Each person taking fish by these means shall possess a valid sport fishing license. Fish taken by these means shall not be sold or bartered. No other fish may be taken in this State by these means. Oklahoma Gig, Grabhook, Spear and Speargun: Gigs and spears are legal for taking nongame fish and white bass only… Gigs, spears and spearguns shall: • not contain more than three points with no more than two barbs on each point; • be lawful in all rivers and streams from Dec. 1 through March 31, and year-round in all reservoirs, unless restricted under “Special Area Regulations;” • Gigs shall be lawful year-round in rivers and streams in Delaware and Mayes counties, unless restricted under “Special Area Regulations.” Tennessee GIGGING, GRABBLING, GRAB HOOKING, SNAGGING, TUBBING, ARCHERY, SPEAR-GUN FISHING, DIPPING, AND CAST NETTING. A. Season open year-round except as noted below. B. All waters open except: 1. Within 100 yards below dams except at Pickwick the closed area will extend downstream to the first moorage cell located across from the boat launching ramp. At John Sevier Steam Plant the discharge channel is also closed. Dipping and cast netting are excluded from this restriction. 2. Those areas closed to fishing listed in Section II. … Iowa BOW FISHING & SPEARING A valid sport fishing license allows you to take rough fish (p.13) and frogs by bow and arrow and spear. Bow fishing and spearing are allowed on public lakes, reservoirs and rivers, private ponds with permission, and border waters described on p. 16. Additional regulations specific to bow fishing and spearing may exist in some state parks, federal refuges, and lakes controlled by city and county governments. Kentucky GIGGING AND SNAGGING FISH Gigging means spearing or impaling fish on any pronged or barbed instrument attached to the end of any rigid object. The statewide season for gigging and/or snagging rough fish is from February 1 through May 10. It is illegal to possess a gig on a stream or lake or in a boat from November 1 through January 31. A person may gig or snag fish from the bank of a stream during the day or night. Gigging and snagging is not legal from a platform, except that gigging is legal from a boat on lakes 500 surface acres or larger and only during daylight hours… Persons may gig rough fish through the ice any time the surface is frozen thick enough to stand upon. The gigger must gig while supported by the ice. Gigging and snagging are prohibited in the following waters or areas:… Haha. I hate when facts get in the way of agendas. Chief Grey Bear, grizwilson and awhuber 3
Chief Grey Bear Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 7 hours ago, bfishn said: Horse Hockey. Missouri's gigging law aligns well with all the surrounding states: Kansas SPEARFISHING & GIGGING Unless otherwise posted, spearguns, without explosive charge, may be used to take nonsport fish in waters posted “open to scuba and skin diving.” Spears must be attached to speargun or person by a line. Nonsport fish may also be taken by gigging in waters not posted as closed to gigging. Arkansas Gigging is defined as taking fish with a three- or four-pronged, barbed device on a shaft. Only rough fish [gar, bowfin, common carp, Asian carp (grass carp, bighead carp, silver carp), suckers (including buffalo), bullhead and drum] may be taken with a gig. Statewide gigging season is 10 a.m.-midnight, from Sept. 15-Feb. 15. An Alligator Gar Permit is required to take alligator gar. Only one alligator gar may be taken per 24 hour period. The daily limit of suckers taken by gigging is 20, the possession limit is 40. Gigging is not allowed in areas where fishing is limited to rod or pole. Illinois Legal Methods of Taking Carp, buffalo, suckers, gar, shad, drum and bowfin may be taken by means of a pitchfork, underwater spear gun, bow and arrow or bow and arrow device, spear or gig. Each person taking fish by these means shall possess a valid sport fishing license. Fish taken by these means shall not be sold or bartered. No other fish may be taken in this State by these means. Oklahoma Gig, Grabhook, Spear and Speargun: Gigs and spears are legal for taking nongame fish and white bass only… Gigs, spears and spearguns shall: • not contain more than three points with no more than two barbs on each point; • be lawful in all rivers and streams from Dec. 1 through March 31, and year-round in all reservoirs, unless restricted under “Special Area Regulations;” • Gigs shall be lawful year-round in rivers and streams in Delaware and Mayes counties, unless restricted under “Special Area Regulations.” Tennessee GIGGING, GRABBLING, GRAB HOOKING, SNAGGING, TUBBING, ARCHERY, SPEAR-GUN FISHING, DIPPING, AND CAST NETTING. A. Season open year-round except as noted below. B. All waters open except: 1. Within 100 yards below dams except at Pickwick the closed area will extend downstream to the first moorage cell located across from the boat launching ramp. At John Sevier Steam Plant the discharge channel is also closed. Dipping and cast netting are excluded from this restriction. 2. Those areas closed to fishing listed in Section II. … Iowa BOW FISHING & SPEARING A valid sport fishing license allows you to take rough fish (p.13) and frogs by bow and arrow and spear. Bow fishing and spearing are allowed on public lakes, reservoirs and rivers, private ponds with permission, and border waters described on p. 16. Additional regulations specific to bow fishing and spearing may exist in some state parks, federal refuges, and lakes controlled by city and county governments. Kentucky GIGGING AND SNAGGING FISH Gigging means spearing or impaling fish on any pronged or barbed instrument attached to the end of any rigid object. The statewide season for gigging and/or snagging rough fish is from February 1 through May 10. It is illegal to possess a gig on a stream or lake or in a boat from November 1 through January 31. A person may gig or snag fish from the bank of a stream during the day or night. Gigging and snagging is not legal from a platform, except that gigging is legal from a boat on lakes 500 surface acres or larger and only during daylight hours… Persons may gig rough fish through the ice any time the surface is frozen thick enough to stand upon. The gigger must gig while supported by the ice. Gigging and snagging are prohibited in the following waters or areas:… 2 hours ago, mjk86 said: Haha. I hate when facts get in the way of agendas. The only truth since post #1! Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
fishinwrench Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Can't remember the last time I told a lie, but whatever. Mitch f 1
Old plug Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 On November 22, 2015 at 1:38:33 PM, Gavin said: Guy I know got a ticket for molesting beavers a couple years ago...........Destroyed a beaver dam on one of the wild trout creeks, he is an engineer, but if you molest one beaver. As the old joke goes. Well shucks Gavin---- I have had experience with beavers world wide. Had to pay a few. But never got rough and destructive about it or molested them. MOsmallies 1
Mitch f Posted November 24, 2015 Author Posted November 24, 2015 I think that fat kid from Subway might get 15 years for doing that!? "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
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