Big M, 12/22

[dtrs5kprs]

17 minutes ago, 176champion said:

Yes sir i did, had a green pumpkin candy worm on there 4.5 inches long probably a 3/8 ounce head, tried a pb&j jig with a green pumpkin trailer, tried a black and blue jig also, it maybe my presentation and could also be my patients with working with different things.

Try a 1/8 head and a cut stick, about 2 & 1/2" long. Deadly Nedly.

[176champion]

What i was using is from whopper baits, called a whippin stick 5.25 inches long, also i need to get some different type of weighted  heads....thanks for the info

 

ps.... gona be awhile before im back on the water pulled fuel tank out of boat to get to bilge area...tired of hauling 30 gallons of water around, livewell drain valves and overflow valve are leaking bad....lol

[96 CHAMP]

That is definately a repair that is needed, good luck getting her back in action

[dtrs5kprs]

2 hours ago, 176champion said:

What i was using is from whopper baits, called a whippin stick 5.25 inches long, also i need to get some different type of weighted  heads....thanks for the info

 

ps.... gona be awhile before im back on the water pulled fuel tank out of boat to get to bilge area...tired of hauling 30 gallons of water around, livewell drain valves and overflow valve are leaking bad....lol

Most welcome. I have run into a lot of folks who are "Nedding", but are really throwing full size baits. A full stick on a shakey head is a great spring/summer bait, but is huge compared to the Ned. The elaztech baits make a huge difference also.

[Ham]

Do yourself a HUGE favor 176, go back and read some of the Ned threads. Take the basic setup as gospel. Dave spent a lot of time (and money) working out details so you don't have to.

Buy some of his heads 1/16 and 1/8 oz. Now, I would suggest 66 of the 1/16 oz and 34 of the 1/8 oz, but you might not be willing to jump in with both feet. So, buy however many you're comfortable with.

Go get some Zeros and/or Zinkers. Start with Green Pumpkin, PB & J, Dirt, and whatever wild card color you want. Other stuff will work. Play with that stuff later. Buy these first, learn with these, they absolutely will work everytime.

Get the Loctite Gel glue in the blue/gray bottle. It is the best glue going, but you'll learn some tricks with it too. That could be a whole different thread. Use a minimal amount. Squeeze very gently and try hard not to get it on your fingers or near your mouth (don't snip your line with your teeth). It will glue wet things together! Doesn't stick to greasy things as well so you'll need something different for your viennas.

Cut the Zinkers in half or as close as you can get. Thread the Zinkers chunk on the jig heads as straight as possible. Glue carefully. Don't mix elaztech with regular plastics. 

I'm the radical that throws in on Nanofil with a leader. Others use braid with leader or Seaguar Inviz X 6 lb line. Plain old mono will work, but the other stuff is better.

If you have a drop shot spinning rod or a ML spinning rod, you're all set. Dave has suggested rods, but I bet you have what you need already.

Go out as soon as you can post monsoon, throw it in 10-25 FOW. Let it fall on a completely slack line. Watch your line. If it jumps, remove slack and sweep set. If not, remove slack once it hits bottom and gently lift to see if a fish has it. IF Yes, sweep set. Lather, rinse, repeat. Slow is better than fast. Shake it in place. Slow drag. Lift and drop. Whatever you want. But slow is better than fast and slack on the drop is a must.

you are at the doorstep of catching a lot more fish and having a golden ticket for when power fishing techniques are not working. You need not ever zero again. 

Good Luck and Merry Christmas from Dave by proxy.

[snagged in outlet 3]

Plus one on what Ham laid out. 

It's  ridiculous how well it works. 

I don't think you need that many heads though.

i bought a bunch from dtrs and still have the same one on.

its all tore up but they love it  

Pete 

 

[Champ188]

1 hour ago, Ham said:

Do yourself a HUGE favor 176, go back and read some of the Ned threads. Take the basic setup as gospel. Dave spent a lot of time (and money) working out details so you don't have to.

Buy some of his heads 1/16 and 1/8 oz. Now, I would suggest 66 of the 1/16 oz and 34 of the 1/8 oz, but you might not be willing to jump in with both feet. So, buy however many you're comfortable with.

Go get some Zeros and/or Zinkers. Start with Green Pumpkin, PB & J, Dirt, and whatever wild card color you want. Other stuff will work. Play with that stuff later. Buy these first, learn with these, they absolutely will work everytime.

Get the Loctite Gel glue in the blue/gray bottle. It is the best glue going, but you'll learn some tricks with it too. That could be a whole different thread. Use a minimal amount. Squeeze very gently and try hard not to get it on your fingers or near your mouth (don't snip your line with your teeth). It will glue wet things together! Doesn't stick to greasy things as well so you'll need something different for your viennas.

Cut the Zinkers in half or as close as you can get. Thread the Zinkers chunk on the jig heads as straight as possible. Glue carefully. Don't mix elaztech with regular plastics. 

I'm the radical that throws in on Nanofil with a leader. Others use braid with leader or Seaguar Inviz X 6 lb line. Plain old mono will work, but the other stuff is better.

If you have a drop shot spinning rod or a ML spinning rod, you're all set. Dave has suggested rods, but I bet you have what you need already.

Go out as soon as you can post monsoon, throw it in 10-25 FOW. Let it fall on a completely slack line. Watch your line. If it jumps, remove slack and sweep set. If not, remove slack once it hits bottom and gently lift to see if a fish has it. IF Yes, sweep set. Lather, rinse, repeat. Slow is better than fast. Shake it in place. Slow drag. Lift and drop. Whatever you want. But slow is better than fast and slack on the drop is a must.

you are at the doorstep of catching a lot more fish and having a golden ticket for when power fishing techniques are not working. You need not ever zero again. 

Good Luck and Merry Christmas from Dave by proxy.

Every word of this is truth. Embrace it.

[Mitch f]

From 5-10 ft away, when you watch a minnow, or a group of minnows, you never see their tail moving.....it just looks like they have mysteriously panned themselves, or darted from one location to another. You don't see an exaggerated tail movement, you don't see any wobble. That's the beauty of a Ned. It perfectly imitates that. But it also combines this movement with a more realistic profile than a slider worm or fish Doctor type worm. Plus, it doesn't tickle their lateral line at all, so they can't get a bad memory of the sound. I'm thinking the less shaking you do, the better. If you notice the fish getting wild over exaggerated movement, you're better off fishing another lure.

[Ham]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I don't think you need that many heads though.

Pete

 

Lol, I was going to suggest buying 200 jig heads with an 120/80 split, but I didn't want to scare him off. I usually lose 4 or 5 on a 10 hour day, but here's what happens to me. I go fishing with someone who has zero Ned rig gear and I'm not the kind of person that is going to wear the fish out on the Ned rig while they all but zero with conventional gear. I generally set them up with my best rod and reel and provide the jigheads and the zinkers. Naturally, they are going to lose a few jigheads during the day. So, I give a lot of jigheads away. And I keep a creek bag ready at all times AND I have  a few jig heads stashed in my boat as an absolute emergency backup. PLUS once he see's how good this deal is, he's gonna want more than the firstlet's say 25 jigheads he orderes.

[Guest]

Ham, we think alike. I've got Ned heads stashed in the Basscat, kayak, garage, truck bed, stockings & random tackle boxes. Just a hoarding