COE Private Boat Dock regulation change

[dblades]

32 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

But you have power to the dock, right?

Major effort?  

Dude,  if the power stops at the shoreline you wouldn't have to carry the battery's all the way to the house!    Put them in a wagon or a 2-wheeled dolly and just take them to the end of the walkway.   If you're fit enough to fish then surely you can handle that.  

Putting electricity over the water is like storing a gas can next to the fireplace.

Solar only just enough for the lifts, night lights  and security system. The bluff trail  isn't suitable for wheeled conveyances and 180 pounds of batteries for me would be a major effort. That's why only the pontoon stays there, not the fishing boat. 

[fishinwrench]

6 hours ago, dblades said:

Solar only just enough for the lifts, night lights  and security system. The bluff trail  isn't suitable for wheeled conveyances and 180 pounds of batteries for me would be a major effort. That's why only the pontoon stays there, not the fishing boat. 

Well there ya have it. Bass boat lives on the trailer like it is supposed to.  No problem exists.  👍👍

[Alex Heitman]

Like I said before we have a big dock with lots of boats on and have solar and we haven't had a problem. We usually fish until dark and charge our batteries at night and no issues at all. Sure it might be a little expensive but I think it's more safe for the lake. Think about all the electrical lines in the water when we had the high water event this year and the previous years. The lines may be safe but I have always felt sketchy with the electrical lines. 

[dtrs5kprs]

On 7/13/2017 at 6:40 AM, bobby b. said:

Also will be a problem in the winter with a few days in a row of heavy cloud cover - my neighbor has a roof solar system that costs $30,000 and on average he gets on 20% output in the winter.  Our little subdivision has a 16 slip dock with pretty heavy usage at times.  We are estimating $10,000 in order to assure to run all the boat lifts and have enough batteries to make it thru the cloudy periods and the nights.

 

On 7/13/2017 at 6:48 AM, bobby b. said:

I'm told it's not about the green agenda but rather electrical safety - but 120 vac is the same wherever it comes.  If it is the green agenda driving this that's really stupid because these private docks don't use any power compared to the other users of the world.  Besides " the Donald" has shown his true colors regarding the environment.  I'm betting he doesn't know about this.  Maybe I should write to him.

No doubt it's a mix of both.

[dtrs5kprs]

On 7/14/2017 at 2:25 PM, Champ188 said:

Is it REALLY worth all of that trouble to avoid a few miles of trailering? Not to  mention getting your boat out of the elements and away from waterborne thieves. Plus the trouble of carting tackle and other equipment back and forth. 

Indeed. I have very little interest in owning a dock. Just something close to a decent ramp or two.

[Joenothum]

2 years ago I was dealing with the COE in getting a resort a new dock placed.  They told me that this change was going to happen but they did not know when.  I don't think the solar will be an issue besides the upfront cost.  With technology evolving everyday the cost to do this will go down.  I saw it happen with LED lights in homes.  They use to be stupid expensive, now its very affordable to go all LED. Same will happen with solar

[Matt Henry]

Funny if the Corps doesn't want residents to use electricity, maybe they should stop producing it.  Take it off the list of priorities the lake and darn was built for in the first place.😆

[moguy1973]

I got a post card in the mail today from the COE that has a website to make comments about the Shoreline Management Plan:

https://go.usa.gov/xN92C

It also lists several public workshops that can be attended.

[TableRockBoater]

Just found this.

We have solar on our dock, and I know many who do.  How many batteries, and what panels you need depends on how the slipowners use electricity.  For instance, it would take quite a system for 20 boat lift pumps to be running at the same time.

I did our system myself about ten years ago.  I could do it again now for:

Engineered plans:  $500

Panels kit from Harbor Freight: Less than $200

Inverter:  Less than $200

Two deep cycle batteries from Wal Mart:  $250

Plus the cost of wiring, outlets, etc., and inspection by a certified electrician.

[bobby b.]

1 hour ago, TableRockBoater said:

Just found this.

We have solar on our dock, and I know many who do.  How many batteries, and what panels you need depends on how the slipowners use electricity.  For instance, it would take quite a system for 20 boat lift pumps to be running at the same time.

I did our system myself about ten years ago.  I could do it again now for:

Engineered plans:  $500

Panels kit from Harbor Freight: Less than $200

Inverter:  Less than $200

Two deep cycle batteries from Wal Mart:  $250

Plus the cost of wiring, outlets, etc., and inspection by a certified electrician.

Boat lift power draw is minimal compared to charging bass boat 24/36 volt systems.  See my estimates above of cost based on charging 5 bass boats at anyone time and the occasionally boat lift plus lighting.  It's probably a moot point because I think the COE is going to give up this very bad idea.

Bobby