Larry Dablemont on telecheck

[fishinwrench]

52 minutes ago, tjm said:

That said, I don't recall ever meeting an Agent or Game Warden that I'd call intimidating, have you

Intimidating? No.  But bothered and detained longer than necessary? Yeah, a couple times.  

Actually I was intimidated once by an MDC agent on the Niangua who was giving his sweety a jet boat ride. He blasted through a run I was fishing TWICE when he could have easily ran the other side of the island, then he pulled in and made me drop my waders in front of his girlfriend.  True story.  She was pleasant and shy.  He was a douchebag.  

[MoCarp]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

 Think how much savings that is over the manning of zumpteen zillion local check stations and payment for use of the parking lots/driveways, that must have been pretty costly?

unsure how most places worked, but I was a volunteer at the check station at the fire station on maiden lane in Joplin when I was at Southern, some of the firemen helped run the show...had a grad student looking for ticks on deer once, but for the most part biology majors from MSSU, a CO would stop in to gather the info. 

[Devan S.]

8 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Stupidest thing I've ever heard/read.

If someone is going to illegally kill a deer they aren't likely to bother with a permit in the first place unless they are a paranoid idiot.  Just kill it and get it in the freezer. There's no need to get the government involved.

With the number of deer that get smeared on the roads...why do they even bother with tags, checks, ect.  during hunting season anyway?    Killing one with a vehicle and letting it rot in the ditch is legal, but killing one with a rifle and eating it is illegal.    Makes no sense at all.  And we are paying for all this "enforcement".

I agree the guy that's going out and killing 10-15 a year isn't buying a tag. I know a guy that falls into this category. He gets caught almost yearly and at this point isn't legal to hunt anything but he is flat out broke(probably due to himself) and he is filling the freezer whether legal or not and the government isn't going to stop him.

They are out trying to catch the guys on the fringe cheating the system. The guy that's loading a plot with a corn feeder. Has 2 good bucks coming in early in the year. Shoot the first; buys wife a tag and shoots the second. I would also venture to guess he buys his wife the tag after he shoots the second one. The thought being if Joe his buddy shoots off his mouth he at least has it tagged.

Or alternatively family's that owns hundreds of acres of land. Use landowner tags but Mikey has moved out of state to the city. He still goes hunting yearly but Pa says to use his landowner tag that he hasn't filled in 30 years. 

It happens every year and people get busted every year.for it. 

[Johnsfolly]

6 hours ago, MoCarp said:

unsure how most places worked, but I was a volunteer at the check station at the fire station on maiden lane in Joplin when I was at Southern, some of the firemen helped run the show...had a grad student looking for ticks on deer once, but for the most part biology majors from MSSU, a CO would stop in to gather the info. 

Did you get any of the guys that brought in a cold deer with rigor mortis at 10 am opening morning saying that they shot it that morning?

I have a friend in the MDC and he told me that in the first year of the phone telecheck manned by live people that they caught hundreds of folks that checked in "does' that were actually bucks simply by asking how many points did the deer have. if you answered with a number they came to your house.

[snagged in outlet 3]

I wish somebody would shoot a half dozen or so out my backyard.  They have already started running their scrapes and rubs behind my house.  Stupid thing literally rips apart my shrubs and bushes.  Last year I had a game cam photo of 7 of them bedded up around my patio like it was their house.  They eat everything they like down to the ground.  Meat wagons will be out soon picking up the road kill. 

[Seth]

My family checks in 10-15 deer ever year and 4-8 turkeys every spring and have never had an agent come by and check on our game. Based on Dablemonts article, we should be expecting to get harassed by an agent every time we harvest a critter and check it in. That guy sounds like a tool, but that is just my two cents.

[fishinwrench]

I dunno, when you see 30x more deer than you do squirrels, rabbits, quail, and feral cats combined.... Something tells me their attention (and funds) should be focused elsewhere. 

[tjm]

6 hours ago, Devan S. said:

The guy that's loading a plot with a corn feeder.

 

6 hours ago, Devan S. said:

 He still goes hunting yearly but Pa says to use his landowner tag that he hasn't filled in 30 years. 

They can tell that over the internet/phone?

[tjm]

12 hours ago, MoCarp said:

for the most part biology majors from MSSU, a CO would stop in to gather the info. 

our county didn't have a college, not sure there were any firemen other than volunteer- but they had 8 or 10 check stations

it may have been all volunteers idk and the stores may have donated the parking lots to attract business, but the talk was that tele-check was going to save  $50-$60 per year or $millions, I can't recall.

Point is, Do you believe the MDC  (or any alphabet company) can see over the phone lines or the computer at the library that you are checking in a doe with six legs and three antlers or six turkeys instead of one? Do You believe I should do all my telechecking after dark so they can't see the color of my coat isn't the right shade of orange? Should we all invest in tin hats?   

 

[Devan S.]

41 minutes ago, tjm said:

 

They can tell that over the internet/phone?

No they cant but having a database in front of them with demographics coupled with an explosion of social media can and does allow them to establish a potential case to check on. Will it catch every violation no but neither did mandatory check in stations. 

Items like first time adult hunters and specifically women, very young kids killing deer, first time land owners, ect all can easily be cross-referenced quite quickly to find potential violations.

Is it any different than what they had 20 years ago...not really. Its probably just faster and takes less field time which means they should have more time to do other tasks.