MoCarp Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, JestersHK said: Can't imagine facing off with one of these with primitive weapons... What size round for short faced bear! I don't they had much of a chance, even with a black powder rifle it would have been tough JestersHK 1 MONKEYS? what monkeys?
BilletHead Posted October 2, 2018 Author Posted October 2, 2018 Well all this talk about the Paleo period got me giddy, Yesterday was not a good day. Broke four in a row. Should of put the tools down with the first failure, This morning I went back out to the tarp and got back after it. So a Dalton was formed. Daltons were a point of the late Paleo into the Early Archaic. We are talking 10,500-9800 Before present or if you prefer 8550 -7850 BC years old. This one is made of the Mozarkite variety of Chouteau chert. A friend and I got bucket loads of this chert not too far from the fairgrounds in Sedalia many moons ago. I have maybe 500 pounds of this rat holed here in BilletHeadVille. Not all of it is good with inclusions and grainy parts in the rock but there are points in it too if you get lucky. No heat treatment on this stone as it should be. Heat treatment technology was not here yet. This point is 3.5 inches long,. The base is ground smooth in the hafting area. Daltons can get long in the 5 to 6 inch range and after re sharpening down to about nothing. They were sharpened on one side only after being made so you may have one that looks like it has a twist in it that is why. They started off with even edges. This one has a place to go to but if I keep knapping I will make a point so you all can throw your names in a hat and we will draw for it. BilletHead FishnDave, JestersHK, Johnsfolly and 4 others 7 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
JestersHK Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Dang! That's beautiful work there again my friend. I think a weekend workshop at a certain so and so's location is in order lol Being a rockhound when I was younger I have some obsidian around somewhere that I though would always be cool to make into a point. Many hours spent as a younger kids trying to chip glass with small hammers and chisels... Wish I would of stuck with it, but without the internet back then I was limited on finding out the how to do it. I mostly ended up with smaller pieces of obsidian and picking shards out of my bleeding fingers lol. BilletHead 1
BilletHead Posted October 2, 2018 Author Posted October 2, 2018 Oh bleed for sure. My leg knapping pads of moose and elk are ridden with blood stains. Some type of eyewear is a must as is super glue, bandages and coban wrap. Obsidian ? That is the lady of the knapping world! Pretty and dangerous, flashy and really good for nothing but getting hurt bad . BilletHead Johnsfolly and JestersHK 1 1 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
JestersHK Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Lol, now ya tell me 😛 I had a good 4 or 5 inch rectangular chunk of it somewhere... Between me and my girls when we moved last year I had over 150lbs of rocks that moved with us lol My middle daughter has rocks from 20 different states already and knows where each of them came from... Her favorite Christmas gift this past year was a rock tumbler lol FishnDave and Johnsfolly 2
Johnsfolly Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, BilletHead said: That is the lady of the knapping world! Pretty and dangerous, flashy and really good for nothing but getting hurt bad . BilletHead 1 hour ago, JestersHK said: Lol, now ya tell me 😛 I had a good 4 or 5 inch rectangular chunk of it somewhere... Don't want to see any human sacrifices if you two get together and form an obsidian blade or use Teotihuacan green obsidian. Just saw a Expedition Unknown episode on them ! JestersHK 1
Quillback Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Johnsfolly said: Don't want to see any human sacrifices if you two get together and form an obsidian blade or use Teotihuacan green obsidian. Just saw a Expedition Unknown episode on them ! I wonder if that was what that point was made out of that they have at the Golden Museum? It was from Central America, and made out of a really neat green stone, had that kind of glassy obsidian look to it. 'Teotihuacan Green' - sounds like something that was smoked in a Cheech and Chong movie. 😄 JestersHK, Johnsfolly and BilletHead 3
JestersHK Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Just be careful who ya bunk with at jig fest this year buddy! Johnsfolly 1
Terrierman Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/1/2018 at 5:51 AM, Quillback said: Those points are really neat. BH, you ever been to the Pioneer museum in Golden MO? They have thousands of points on display, maybe 10's of thousands, it's incredible how many they have. Not only stuff from North America, but from Central America too. Some of the Central American points are ceremonial type, I remember one spear head that's made out of Jade or some kind of dark green stone. Works of art in some ways, you can tell the people that made them were craftsmen and had pride in their work. Only negative is everything is from private collections so not much narrative as to what you are looking at. You need to go to the museum that's at Top of the Rock. Definitely tens of thousands of points, axes, adzes, pestles, clothing, everything imaginable that a billionaire could possibly have. Quillback 1
snagged in outlet 3 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, Terrierman said: You need to go to the museum that's at Top of the Rock. Definitely tens of thousands of points, axes, adzes, pestles, clothing, everything imaginable that a billionaire could possibly have. They have a lot at Dogwood Canyon too.
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