WHERE ARE THE COSTA GUYS?

[5bites]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Not sure it would help on the wake boat guys.  20'er pushes a pretty good sized wake.  5 in one area will run everyone else off.

Good point. I thought they were longer than that honestly. I can’t stand to look at one long enough to decipher its length lol. I used to be annoyed by jet skis. Man I wish we had those days back. 

[Jerry Rapp]

better be careful about wishing on boat number limits.  It might actually come to fruit where fishing boats are restricted to days ending in Y and pleasure boats the other days.  Be thankful for what you have, seriously, I don't think anyone wants to be limited to certain days for fishing access.  I think this is the case on same california lakes.

[fishinwrench]

19 hours ago, Mhyde said:

Better start with the kids too. you can't just point the finger and blame just adults, every decent size JR/MIDDLE & High school now have fishing teams with kids from 12-18  years old ALL being taught 5 fish to scale style tournaments now. I believe the man that runs this website even participated in the one at Table Rock last 2 weekends ago with some kids, did you blast him for his participation in that style of tournament that you despise so bad???? 

Nope I can't in good conscious blast anyone because I used to do it for a living (if you can call existing on that degree of income "living"), but that was back before there was 60+ tournaments on every lake every month.

Sure don't wish to deny anyone the sport of competitive fishing, but I hope to convince enough people that it has grown way past the point where a change in scoring methods is needed.

The question that I can't get anyone to answer is.... If the current amount of fish relocation isn't a problem now, then at what point would it be?   Would having 100 tournaments per month make you say YES?  150?  How much more fish hauling would make you say "Good God, this is not cool anymore"?

I have been at that point for a couple years now. 

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, 5bites said:

Good point. I thought they were longer than that honestly. I can’t stand to look at one long enough to decipher its length lol. I used to be annoyed by jet skis. Man I wish we had those days back. 

Me too!   

I never thought the day would come when PWC owners complained that the lake was too rough to ride on.  But that started happening about 6 years ago.  

I thought they loves waves!   Turns out there's a limit to that. 😅

[Seth]

I agree with you on their being too many tournament series and clubs. The Gasconade, Maramec and Osage have a half dozen different clubs that hold tournaments now and it has the numbers all spread out. Less clubs and higher turnouts would be more exciting to me as well. Then again, having multiple clubs also offers a person the ability to join several and fish multiple tournaments almost every weekend between the end of May till October. There are a few guys that will fish almost every one of them. There are a few open style tournaments that draw some pretty good numbers and those are my favorite tournaments to fish in since you have most of the best anglers competing. If you can do well in those, then you've actually done something.

[Mhyde]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

Nope I can't in good conscious blast anyone because I used to do it for a living (if you can call existing on that degree of income "living"), but that was back before there was 60+ tournaments on every lake every month.

Sure don't wish to deny anyone the sport of competitive fishing, but I hope to convince enough people that it has grown way past the point where a change in scoring methods is needed.

The question that I can't get anyone to answer is.... If the current amount of fish relocation isn't a problem now, then at what point would it be?   Would having 100 tournaments per month make you say YES?  150?  How much more fish hauling would make you say "Good God, this is not cool anymore"?

I have been at that point for a couple years now. 

If you didn't know,  the  High school tournaments now even haul those fish to a different locations to weigh in and then taken back to the lake on a relocation boat. in the case of the TR HS tournament every team took there fish from TR to the White Water parking lot to weigh in. 

As far as the club deal, bass tournaments have become no different than having/joining  a rec/company  slow pitch softball team. the company I work for has an annual tournament for clients, staff and vendors. I know of at least 3 companies we do business with that have weekly series just for employees just like they have a softball team for staff that enjoy that. we have also pulled into a ramp many times that a tournament was taking place ( benefits mostly) that regatta  permits were never submitted.  

 

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 hour ago, Mhyde said:

As far as the club deal, bass tournaments have become no different than having/joining  a rec/company  slow pitch softball team. the company I work for has an annual tournament for clients, staff and vendors

I mentioned on here one time that I compared it to charity golf tourneys.  Except the golfers don't call them themselves "pros" like these bass tourney guys do.  A guy moved in next door to me and he told everyone he was pro fisherman.  After questioning he has a regular job and fishes in these tourneys.  Hardly a professional in my book is the guy throwing in a hundy to fish a charity tourney on the weekend.  Heck I might have made more money playing golf than he did after he paid for the boat, gas, insurance etc.....I definitely made more if you include my side bets. 

[Seth]

It's a wonder anybody can get sponsored these days with all of the fake pros running around advertising stuff for free.

[Quillback]

1 hour ago, Seth said:

It's a wonder anybody can get sponsored these days with all of the fake pros running around advertising stuff for free.

I'm a regular Tackle Warehouse walking advertisement, just about always wear one of my "free" TW T-shirts when I am fishing.  Nobody has conferred pro status on me yet however, which makes me wonder, how does someone know if they are a pro?  Does somebody send you a certificate?

[snagged in outlet 3]

23 minutes ago, Quillback said:

I'm a regular Tackle Warehouse walking advertisement, just about always wear one of my "free" TW T-shirts when I am fishing.  Nobody has conferred pro status on me yet however, which makes me wonder, how does someone know if they are a pro?  Does somebody send you a certificate?

If your main source of income is tournament fishing or you’re a guide then you’re a pro in my book.  

If you work a 9-5 at the local manufacturing plant and fish charity deals on the side or the Wednesday night cash pot you’re not a pro.  

Would you agree?