Deadstream Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, ColdWaterFshr said: and by the way, are you a communist? Are you? Sure sounds like it. Relax, you lost. Get over it. You can vote for Hillary again in November. Serenity now, Serenity now.
Mitch f Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Terrierman said: If there's ever been a President with more indicted, convicted, forced resignations and withdrawn nominations of his minions somebody please tell me which one. And if there's ever been a President who's now barred from running a "charitable" foundation, please tell me which one. If there's ever been a President who's turned on more of his people - senior people, please tell me which one. This I will agree with you on, but I didn’t know about the charitable organization thing. I’ll need to look into that. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
jdmidwest Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Terrierman said: If there's ever been a President with more indicted, convicted, forced resignations and withdrawn nominations of his minions somebody please tell me which one. And if there's ever been a President who's now barred from running a "charitable" foundation, please tell me which one. If there's ever been a President who's turned on more of his people - senior people, please tell me which one. He was aquitted on false charges in office. It's really a shame he can't make Congressman resign. It needs new blood with sound morals and ideas that reflect the needs of the country as a whole. tjm, snagged in outlet 3 and Mitch f 2 1 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Devan S. Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, jdmidwest said: It's really a shame he can't make Congressman resign. Not really. I think that's the last thing we really want happening. Imagine the debacle that would be forced resignations by the executive branch. Would be like court appointees x10. It sounds great until it directly works against you when the pendulum swings the other way. Perfect example is the Republicans going nuclear on the SCOTUS appointees after the Democrats did it 4 years earlier. The real shame is that the American people get fixated on a figurehead (most often the President, Speaker, ect) and all but ignore voting for the masses of congress/senate as evidenced by the drop off in voter turnout on any election outside POTUS. I don't believe the President is the greatest character and personally and morally I have some strong agreements and disagreements with how he handles himself and the office of POTUS. However, I am certain there is Republican and Democrats in both the Senate and Congress that have done and will do things that both myself and the masses believe are objectively wrong. Unless they have some high ranking title and/or they commit something overly heinous, they have to endure 1-2 weeks of media backlash (if that) then all is forgotten. You all want to blame someone for American politics and there is really only one person to blame...the American people. When 40-50% don't vote for President, another 10-20% wont vote at midterms who else can you blame. You cant logically blame the people elected for abusing their powers when Americans(their boss) have a opportunity to solve the issues every couple of years with their votes. Think about your place of employment and if any shady, backroom, sweetheart deals go on or cover-ups that happen. If this kind of stuff goes on at work, do you think highly of your management? Probably not(unless your the manager). The political place of employment is no different.....we just have really crappy managers that refuse to FIRE bad employees. Term limits, political parties, lobbying, drain the swamp.....none of that matters if elected officials were held responsible by their constituents. tjm and Terrierman 1 1
Terrierman Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Mitch f said: This I will agree with you on, but I didn’t know about the charitable organization thing. I’ll need to look into that. Trump Foundation. The one that he used for charitable things like portraits of himself.
Terrierman Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, jdmidwest said: He was aquitted on false charges in office. It's really a shame he can't make Congressman resign. It needs new blood with sound morals and ideas that reflect the needs of the country as a whole. Huge strategic error by Pelosi. She knew the R Senate would never convict, no matter how overwhelming the case.
N9BOW Posted May 1, 2020 Author Posted May 1, 2020 Wow!... go work on my garden and get offline for a while and this has become a p!ss!n match over politics again, and again, and again, and again... Going back to my garden...HAVE FUN WHILE IT LASTS ....
Terrierman Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, N9BOW said: Wow!... go work on my garden and get offline for a while and this has become a p!ss!n match over politics again, and again, and again, and again... Going back to my garden...HAVE FUN WHILE IT LASTS .... I tried to keep this thread clean but gave up. Obviously. I'm more than willing to drop it so long as others are too. Otherwise, I'll play.
fishinwrench Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 I'd be more interested in this "debate" if it had any merit whatsoever. The amount of digging you guys are doing just to come up with something to slam the president about, is rediculous. It's rediculous because NONE OF IT effects you. Votes are personal, everyone that votes, allegedly votes for the person they feel is best for THEM and their personal idea of good. Nobody has been shat on by this president. Things for you are good. Yet you're not happy. My money says you'll never be happy regardless. tjm, Terrierman, Mitch f and 2 others 4 1
Terrierman Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: I'd be more interested in this "debate" if it had any merit whatsoever. The amount of digging you guys are doing just to come up with something to slam the president about, is rediculous. It's rediculous because NONE OF IT effects you. Votes are personal, everyone that votes, allegedly votes for the person they feel is best for THEM and their personal idea of good. Nobody has been shat on by this president. Things for you are good. Yet you're not happy. My money says you'll never be happy regardless. I'm always happy.😎
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