Defunding our police..

[fishinwrench]

I got called to Beauty View docks (huge connected double dock with 35-40 boats moored in it, and a gas pump at one end), one of the big cruisers had ruptured a fuel tank and the auto bilge was pumping raw fuel onto the water....and I mean LOTS of it.   The slick was encompassing the entire dock complex.  The water patrol and first responders had the owners kill the electricity to all surrounding docks.  I went onboard the troublesome vessel and stopped the bilge.  

When filling out their report they asked me...."You just went onboard and disconnected the battery, right?"  

I said...Is that what you would have done?  

The fire chief said, yeah I suppose.

I said....Good thing you called me!  😲

[ness]

[Devan S.]

5 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

I got called to Beauty View docks (huge connected double dock with 35-40 boats moored in it, and a gas pump at one end), one of the big cruisers had ruptured a fuel tank and the auto bilge was pumping raw fuel onto the water....and I mean LOTS of it.   The slick was encompassing the entire dock complex.  The water patrol and first responders had the owners kill the electricity to all surrounding docks.  I went onboard the troublesome vessel and stopped the bilge.  

When filling out their report they asked me...."You just went onboard and disconnected the battery, right?"  

I said...Is that what you would have done?  

The fire chief said, yeah I suppose.

I said....Good thing you called me!  😲

So you knew about 90% of the information you needed prior to ever being in danger and then determined once you were in danger how to prevent catastrophic outcomes due to the very predictable laws of combustion and physics?

How is that equal to dealing with an unpredictable person whom does not want to have an interaction with you in the first place?

 

 

[fishinwrench]

19 minutes ago, Devan S. said:

So you knew about 90% of the information you needed prior to ever being in danger and then determined once you were in danger how to prevent catastrophic outcomes due to the very predictable laws of combustion and physics?

How is that equal to dealing with an unpredictable person whom does not want to have an interaction with you in the first place?

 

 

   There was no predictability.   I had never been on that boat before.   Had no idea what active circuits were running.  All I knew was that Auto bilge switches are SUPPOSED to be in the lowest area of the bilge.

And no they never covered that situation at MMI, so no "training" for that one.   100% self taught.  

Equal?  Not hardly bro.   There's no reasoning or negotiating with a boat. It doesn't respond to a tazer much.

[Devan S.]

3 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

   There was no predictability.   I had never been on that boat before.   Had no idea what active circuits were running.  All I knew was that Auto bilge switches are SUPPOSED to be in the lowest area of the bilge.

And no they never covered that situation at MMI, so no "training" for that one.   100% self taught.  

You did know there was nobody on the boat flipping switches, nobody on the boat trying to disconnect the batteries, nobody standing around smoking right? You knew the electric at the surrounding the docks was turned off. You knew you couldn't cause a spark, you knew it was pumping raw gas out of the bilge pump, right?

I think you knew more about how to solve the situation prior to ever actually engaging the situation in a dangerous manner than you give credit for. 

 

[Devan S.]

26 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

It doesn't respond to a tazer much.

I bet when their covered in gas they do!

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Devan S. said:

You did know there was nobody on the boat flipping switches, nobody on the boat trying to disconnect the batteries, nobody standing around smoking right? You knew the electric at the surrounding the docks was turned off.

Nobody knew if there was anyone in the boat.  And I knew that they SAID the breaker had been flipped.    I didn't even know where the breaker was located so I couldn't confirm. And there wasn't time to go looking for it anyway.  

Which brings up curiosity about why cops immediately start bombarding suspects with questions.  As if they are going to believe the answers they are given anyway.   What's the point of that? 

I actually know why, just checking to see if you do. 😊  I have a follow-up quiz if you do. 

[Gavin]

I do not trust the PoPo..but will give them a legit answer if not under their lazer beam. Buddy of mine is Clayton, MO PD...At the Galleria or Court House all the time...One or Two years to retirement..He cant wait to get out of it. If people could be kind to others.

[fishinwrench]

Going back to the defunding conversation...

I think maybe I would be for the defunding of the Minneapolis PD (alone), at least until they can produce some evidence of Mr. Floyd's involvement in the producing of counterfeit money.   I mean, let's at least verify that the initial stop and search was justified and legit. 

Don't ya think?  

[BilletHead]

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