2009 boat and motor I want,... BUT COMPRESSION ?

[fishinwrench]

4 minutes ago, Will S. said:

Ok, Ill put you down in the "JUST RUN" column !

Well, depends on how much you like the boat, and the negotiated price.  You can always part out the motor and repower the boat. 

[Will S.]

Well, I DO like to go fast.......

[Gumboot]

Will, it's a 90...unless it's on a 16' jon boat, you're not going to go that fast.  But to Wrench's point concerning 4 strokes, as soon as the new e techs run out, that's all you got, so we're going to have to get used to them.

[moguy1973]

So is it a byproduct of these kinds of motors having to run WOT more than a car motor that causes boat 4 strokes to die quickly?  Or is they sit for a while longer than cars typically and since they are 4 strokes with valves open they allow moisture into the cylinders which rusts them?

Just confused on why you can buy a car with a 4 stroke and have it run many thousand miles and last but a boat motor ran only a fraction of the time doesn’t?   Are they just poorly built?  Or do people just not take care of them like they should?  
 

I’d like to think I take pretty good care of the 2009 60hp Merc I have and it seems like it’s still running well after 11 years (4 of which I’ve opened it)
 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, moguy1973 said:

So is it a byproduct of these kinds of motors having to run WOT more than a car motor that causes boat 4 strokes to die quickly?  Or is they sit for a while longer than cars typically and since they are 4 strokes with valves open they allow moisture into the cylinders which rusts them?

Just confused on why you can buy a car with a 4 stroke and have it run many thousand miles and last but a boat motor ran only a fraction of the time doesn’t?   Are they just poorly built?  Or do people just not take care of them like they should?  
 

I’d like to think I take pretty good care of the 2009 60hp Merc I have and it seems like it’s still running well after 11 years (4 of which I’ve opened it)
 

 

 

I asked the same thing but more in reference to 4 stroke motorcycle motors like Hondas.  Those things are indestructible...

[fishinwrench]

3 hours ago, moguy1973 said:

So is it a byproduct of these kinds of motors having to run WOT more than a car motor that causes boat 4 strokes to die quickly?  Or is they sit for a while longer than cars typically and since they are 4 strokes with valves open they allow moisture into the cylinders which rusts them?

Just confused on why you can buy a car with a 4 stroke and have it run many thousand miles and last but a boat motor ran only a fraction of the time doesn’t?   Are they just poorly built?  Or do people just not take care of them like they should?  
 

I’d like to think I take pretty good care of the 2009 60hp Merc I have and it seems like it’s still running well after 11 years (4 of which I’ve opened it)
 

 

 

Internal powerhead/valve train components that are either plastic or made from other lightweight composite material (you won't find that in your car/motorcycle/ or old Briggs & Stratton lawn mower....and that's probably why it lasts long enough to burn up 8 sets of spark plugs before it finally gives up the ghost).   But they are trying to conserve WEIGHT....so that's what they use whenever they think they can get away with it.   Just not a smart move, for longevity, especially on an engine that relies on lake water to control its operating temperature.  Once that engine even mildly overheats it will never run the same again.....and the company is off the hook because "HEY, YOU OVERHEATED IT!   It's YOUR fault".  

Add to that a computer controlled system that attempts to balance the emissions via sensor input... and you have a system that is practically impossible to diagnose when rough running and loss of power occurs.   

My business model/plan is to not spend a single dime on advertising.  I let my happy customers do all my advertising for me.   I can't be anyone's hero that brings me a 4-stroke outboard (just the honest truth). And that's why I don't like them.

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3 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

.and the company is off the hook because "HEY, YOU OVERHEATED IT

This is my only complaint with the new Rude.  It peas straight back behind the motor and I can't see it from the driver;'s seat.  The merc shot it out to the side so I could easily see it.  Real important in the winter time to make sure it's not frozen up.  Any solution??

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

This is my only complaint with the new Rude.  It peas straight back behind the motor and I can't see it from the driver;'s seat.  The merc shot it out to the side so I could easily see it.  Real important in the winter time to make sure it's not frozen up.  Any solution??

Of course.  Bring it, and I'll make it piss wherever you want it to.  

I modified one of my customers pontoons so that a little stuffed monkey sitting on the back deck is pissing off the starboard side of the boat.   It's kinda cute 😊

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37 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Of course.  Bring it, and I'll make it piss wherever you want it to.  

I modified one of my customers pontoons so that a little stuffed monkey sitting on the back deck is pissing off the starboard side of the boat.   It's kinda cute 😊

I want that!!!   Maybe a perve looking monkey instead of a cute one.  

[fishinwrench]

Actually though.  If you look at the indicator discharge port, you can loosen the outer nut, turn the inner piss hole part with needle nose pliers so that it pee's off to the side, and then tighten down the outer nut to hold its position.

Whoever rigged your motor either didn't know that....or skipped that part.   It is supposed to piss off to the starboard side so you can glance over your shoulder and see it.