Rant... you can’t fix stupid

[gotmuddy]

17 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

One of my guys just came back after being out for three weeks. He had it pretty bad I think. He says it was horrible but he overexaggerates a bit. His doctor told him that his immunity would only last about 60 days. I've heard from one of our customers that his doctor told him 90 days. Definitely weird that if you can get it again after having it then how does this herd immunity thing work? 

I've also had a guy test positive twice and be very sick both times. Those tests were only 30 days apart. 

 

I wonder if this test differentiates between covid-19 and the other common coronaviruses?

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Ketchup said:

Anyone else come for the grins? 
 

#novaccineforme

#seewhatsinthatstuff?

[Chief Grey Bear]

5 hours ago, gotmuddy said:

Don't have one, I voted 3rd party😅

Voting 3rd party means nothing. 
Your words mean everything. 

[tjm]

8 hours ago, Flysmallie said:

if you can get it again after having it then how does this herd immunity thing work? 

If the herd has faith in the propaganda they will be immune, it's mental. 

[gotmuddy]

42 minutes ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

Voting 3rd party means nothing. 
Your words mean everything. 

Absolutely on both.  We have a broken system.

[Al Agnew]

As I wrote earlier, best science presently is that it's likely that some re-infections are actually the virus hanging around in the body and flaring up again, not a new infection.  If less than 30 days, that would seem likely.  Also those types of flare-ups tend to be worse the second time than the first time.  True re-infections have happened but are rare.  The virus, by the way, HAS mutated...they've seen several different mutations, but none so far have made the virus more resistant to the antibodies.  When you have this many people carrying the virus all over the world, mutations can happen in a hurry.  Nobody knows whether it will mutate to make it resistant to the old antibodies.  Immunity after being infected and recovering is still an open question...could be as little as 4 months, or as much as a year or more.  There is some evidence that the T cells that can produce the antibodies remain in the body for at least a year; question is if enough of them remain to easily fight off a re-infection after a longer period of time.  Probably the best case scenario is a situation much like the flu, with flu shots necessary each year, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better, or worse.  Given the number of people getting extremely sick and dying from it across the world, the pressure is on for better controlling it.

Viruses have a vested interest, if you will, in actually NOT killing their hosts, at least not on a time frame that will keep the virus from spreading before its host gets too sick to spread the virus around.  It's why Ebola, as scary as it is, is actually pretty easily contained (so far).  It is TOO deadly.  Flares up, kills a bunch of people in a few areas, but is obvious who is sick.  It's why Covid is SO much more difficult to contain...it kills some, but doesn't hurt many who become spreaders.  All this crap about it only killing 1% or 2% is actually the worst scenario, because it really sucks if you're one of the 1%, or one of the 10-20% who get really sick and may suffer long term problems, and yet there are plenty of "healthy" spreaders.

[Smalliebigs]

1 hour ago, Al Agnew said:

As I wrote earlier, best science presently is that it's likely that some re-infections are actually the virus hanging around in the body and flaring up again, not a new infection.  If less than 30 days, that would seem likely.  Also those types of flare-ups tend to be worse the second time than the first time.  True re-infections have happened but are rare.  The virus, by the way, HAS mutated...they've seen several different mutations, but none so far have made the virus more resistant to the antibodies.  When you have this many people carrying the virus all over the world, mutations can happen in a hurry.  Nobody knows whether it will mutate to make it resistant to the old antibodies.  Immunity after being infected and recovering is still an open question...could be as little as 4 months, or as much as a year or more.  There is some evidence that the T cells that can produce the antibodies remain in the body for at least a year; question is if enough of them remain to easily fight off a re-infection after a longer period of time.  Probably the best case scenario is a situation much like the flu, with flu shots necessary each year, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better, or worse.  Given the number of people getting extremely sick and dying from it across the world, the pressure is on for better controlling it.

Viruses have a vested interest, if you will, in actually NOT killing their hosts, at least not on a time frame that will keep the virus from spreading before its host gets too sick to spread the virus around.  It's why Ebola, as scary as it is, is actually pretty easily contained (so far).  It is TOO deadly.  Flares up, kills a bunch of people in a few areas, but is obvious who is sick.  It's why Covid is SO much more difficult to contain...it kills some, but doesn't hurt many who become spreaders.  All this crap about it only killing 1% or 2% is actually the worst scenario, because it really sucks if you're one of the 1%, or one of the 10-20% who get really sick and may suffer long term problems, and yet there are plenty of "healthy" spreaders.

There is more than one strain of Covid Al. One gives you a very mild case if anything at all. Another which seems to be a little more rare now is a killer. My family has been exposed to it and none of us were even sick really. Hell my wife has had people in hospice who get Covid while there to die and recover from the Covid before they succumb to the illness that put them there. That has happened 4 times now since August. It is a weird virus that has given a Golden ticket to government officials to do anything they want to you and your families in the name of saving people from it. Also there is no good science on this as of yet so don’t even pretend to convince any of these fisherman that there are some sort of solid facts on this virus because there isn’t.

[Chief Grey Bear]

[ColdWaterFshr]

32 minutes ago, Smalliebigs said:

There is more than one strain of Covid Al. 

Oh, really.  How many strains are there?  Would like to learn more good science from fishermen on how to keep from getting this flu bug.

[ColdWaterFshr]

The title of this thread says it all.  It got super informative when it went down the path of comparing to tick bites.🤣