Here ya go, Marty

[Flysmallie]

1 hour ago, fshndoug said:

Wrench also has a degree in bait fishing, I believe it is a Master

He’s for sure a jack off. 😁

[MOPanfisher]

I have no clue if LOZ has threadfin shad or not,,but dang it now I want a photo to prove it.  Or perhaps we can simply start a movement that dividing shad into 2 different species is hurtful to the shad.  Why categorize them, simply let them be whatever they want to identify with at the time.  Stop dividing them, just let them be shad.

[Terrierman]

8 hours ago, Johnsfolly said:

It's like bigfoot, until there is a body this argument will not get resolved. Don't need bags of fish, just good high resolution photos. Need to see the head and mouth in profile, be able to count the fin rays and the lateral line scales. 

Killjoy.

 

[BilletHead]

6 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

I have no clue if LOZ has threadfin shad or not,,but dang it now I want a photo to prove it.  Or perhaps we can simply start a movement that dividing shad into 2 different species is hurtful to the shad.  Why categorize them, simply let them be whatever they want to identify with at the time.  Stop dividing them, just let them be shad.

             #Shad lives matter!

[fishinwrench]

8 hours ago, tjm said:

If threadfin shad were established in Deepwater Creek by 1975, and several places in the lower Osage drainage by 1983, what is the theory why they wouldn't be in LOZ?

Because some MDC biologists said so.  🙄

LOZ has everything. Here's a few others that might surprise you....

Northern Pike, Musky, Brook trout, Alligator gar, Pacu, Snakeheads, and even gets visited by (the most mind-blowing of all) free-range spawning American Eel 😳

[tjm]

As a kid in the '50s, I've heard lots of eels used to come up the Elk River tribs stories.  Pensacola Dam stopped that they claimed. No fish ladder they said. so with Bagnell being older and about the same height, is there a fish ladder there or how do those eels get up and down?

[fishinwrench]

38 minutes ago, tjm said:

As a kid in the '50s, I've heard lots of eels used to come up the Elk River tribs stories.  Pensacola Dam stopped that they claimed. No fish ladder they said. so with Bagnell being older and about the same height, is there a dish ladder there or how do those eels get up and down?

I have no idea.  Squeeze around the turbine housing, or through a crack in the foundation maybe.  That's the only reasonable explanation I can think of.   

Back in my home town they always reported mice in the water tower.  Nobody ever figured out how the hell they managed to get up and inside there.  But they did, all the time.

[willyfish]

Who knows what is swimming in the lake with all the houses around it. I've heard stories of exotics being dumped, everything from piranha to baby gators. Who know though. It feels like a giant septic tank at times!

[snagged in outlet 3]

I saw this show last week and I forgot what it was.  @fishinwrenchwill love this.  They treated a stocked pond with different drugs they usually find in waste water plants like antihistamines, antibiotics and even birth control pills.  One of them caused the fish to quit hiding in the grass beds and made them pelagic which was not a normal trait.  I immediately thought of Wrench and the LOZ bass.  

[conorsixtakc]

wrench's green stripers are on the pill too? 😂