Mitch f Posted October 3, 2021 Author Posted October 3, 2021 14 hours ago, Jerry Rapp said: I wonder what changed? China and Russia have the means to reverse engineer 85 billion of our military technology. The border is in complete chaos. We now have virtually all of the cabinet appointments chosen nearly exclusively on Race, Gender, or Sexual orientation tjm 1 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Johnsfolly Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Mitch f said: China and Russia have the means to reverse engineer 85 million of our military technology. The border is in complete chaos. We now have virtually all of the cabinet appointments chosen nearly exclusively on Race, Gender, or Sexual orientation The work on the pipelines was halted. All processes that were put in place by the previous admin have been halted or reversed. Minorities have been enslaved again by their own votes. The inmates have been assigned posts at the asylum. Mitch f, tjm and Jerry Rapp 3
snagged in outlet 3 Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Johnsfolly said: The work on the pipelines was halted Our company bought over 100,000’ of pipe from those canceled projects. There’s hundreds of miles more pipe laying around the country too. Only so much can be used as downgraded material for bridge piling. Some of our pipe piles are also sitting in TX from the cancelled wall work. Just rusting away. What a complete turnaround from just a year ago. It’s a Shame really. Mitch f 1
Devan S. Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Many of these pipelines are bringing oil from Canadian tar sand fields into the USA, No? Keystone certainly was. I guess I'm confused on the whole "energy independent claims" but still building pipelines importing from other countries.
nomolites Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Devan S. said: Many of these pipelines are bringing oil from Canadian tar sand fields into the USA, No? Keystone certainly was. I guess I'm confused on the whole "energy independent claims" but still building pipelines importing from other countries. In large scale material movements the cheapest and safest way to move liquid or gas is via pipeline. Significantly. Not even remotely close to any other method - meaning without pipelines the costs of downstream goods rises and becomes significantly higher. Further, the workers and material required to transport these liquids and gas via other modes(water, rail, truck)will impact other portions of the economy as well. From what I can see, with limited rail capacity and truck drivers shortages among other things, shutting down pipeline transport is not what I would consider a smart move. And for the record, most of these pipes are moving materials primarily within the US…and without them life as we know it simply doesn’t exist. Hopefully Keystone II was what it appears to be, simple political pandering, rather than a harbinger of things to come with respect to pipelines as a mode of liquid material transport. Mike
Flysmallie Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 I keep hearing about the shortage of truck drivers. I hear it from our suppliers and from truck drivers themselves. But what has happened in the trucking industry? There doesn't seem to be a shortage of trucks on the road or in truck stops.
snagged in outlet 3 Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Devan S. said: Many of these pipelines are bringing oil from Canadian tar sand fields into the USA, No? Keystone certainly was. I guess I'm confused on the whole "energy independent claims" but still building pipelines importing from other countries. We bought from two pipelines. Both domestic in origin. One in WV and one in upstate PA.
nomolites Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, Flysmallie said: I keep hearing about the shortage of truck drivers. I hear it from our suppliers and from truck drivers themselves. But what has happened in the trucking industry? There doesn't seem to be a shortage of trucks on the road or in truck stops. Many reason, just to name a few: 1) increased demand for drivers - certain sectors of the economy are booming, and there is significant infrastructure work under way in certain geographies(Texas as an example). Trucking liquids via truck that could be transported via pipe add to demand. Launching satellites for internet and taking joy rides to space also add to demand, etc. 2) attrition - many drivers are in the age range where they are retiring, and younger folks don’t want to drive a truck…did you know they normally work more than 40 hours a week? Egad. Young people do not want to work that hard. 3) regulation - lots of folks - both business owners and drivers - have reached a point where they have had enough. You need 20% more capital invested in tractors to run a business now as that many are waiting to be repaired at dealers for emissions related problems at any given time - you can’t get parts and the techs don’t know how diagnose and fix them if you could. Drivers are increasingly micro managed by regulators with added medical and HOS requirements. A typical driver in the past chose that vocation because they could be their own boss - not anymore. I see it getting worse before it gets better, but I could be wrong. Mike tjm, fishinwrench and Daryk Campbell Sr 3
Devan S. Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: We bought from two pipelines. Both domestic in origin. One in WV and one in upstate PA. Interesting.....I guess I was ignorant of the whole number of pipelines. All I associated with was the Keystone XL which Biden shut down on day one and was all over the news. Just never made sense to me why we were supposedly independent but actively building a pipeline to get Canada's oil. 3 hours ago, Flysmallie said: I keep hearing about the shortage of truck drivers. I hear it from our suppliers and from truck drivers themselves. But what has happened in the trucking industry? There doesn't seem to be a shortage of trucks on the road or in truck stops. Back when I hired welders/fitters/millwrights, guy's would take massive pay cuts to get off the "road" and be in a job where they could see their kids/families everyday. The pay sounds good until you start missing events or hearing rumors of what your wife/gf is doing when your gone. I would assume OTR trucking is very much the same way.
nomolites Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 37 minutes ago, Devan S. said: Back when I hired welders/fitters/millwrights, guy's would take massive pay cuts to get off the "road" and be in a job where they could see their kids/families everyday. The pay sounds good until you start missing events or hearing rumors of what your wife/gf is doing when your gone. I would assume OTR trucking is very much the same way. That is partially true, but the current shortage extends to driving jobs where you are home every day and have 2 days off a week….OTR drivers are even harder to come by. It is not just drivers, the same challenge is facing most industries. I’m glad I’m at the tail end of my career and won’t have to look this in the eyes a few years down the road from a business perspective…as a consumer will be bad enough. Mike snagged in outlet 3 1
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