Covid OTC Treatments

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1 hour ago, SpareTime said:

I did some work in molecular genetics and the immune response, and teach University microbiology.  From what I've been able to piece together, the vaccines are more tailored to the Delta variant than the Omicron variant.  Currently, most cases severe enough to require hospitalization are still Delta, which goes against what the computer modeling suggested since the infectivity of Omicron is higher.  Since the monoclonal antibodies are also more specific to Delta, and the advanced models were overzealous in their predictions of the prevalence of Omicron, monoclonal antibodies are harder to come by because it was not thought they would be as useful.  

Now we are seeing people vaccinated who are able to resist Alpha and Delta well, but who are experiencing breakthrough cases of Omicron.  The silver lining is that Omicron (while still making you feel lousy) appears to be more of an upper respiratory and throat infection, and cases are less severe than Delta.  The complexity of this pandemic is beyond anything I've seen in case studies of past epidemics/pandemics, and the confounding variables of individual and group responses coupled with the varying reliability of data and the fast moving pace make it very tricky to nail down with certainty what medical professionals and public health organizations are doing "right" or "wrong".  This is just a very difficult situation, and some good grace towards our neighbors goes a long way.  

Hoping for a speedy recovery!  Treat the symptoms and take heart that your immune system will likely now have robust memory to multiple circulating variants of the virus.  Easy to say from the comfort of my keyboard I know.  

At this point wouldn’t this be better classified as endemic?

[jdmidwest]

There is a nasty flu bug going around now.  I caught it the 2 weeks before Christmas, fever, cough, ache.  Felt like crap.  Started on Weds and by Sat, I broke down and bought a test, negative.  Still had taste and smell, at least what is left after surgery and radiation.

Went away for about a week then came back with the sporatic cough and sinus issues.  Still have it today.  About half of the office feeling same way.

Still no Covid here in my family yet.

[Terrierman]

 One of the guys I went elk hunting with spent a week in a tent in Colorado with a covid positive guy.  The covid guy was sick and coughing a lot.

Caught nothing.  It's not totally predictable, is it?

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15 minutes ago, Terrierman said:

 One of the guys I went elk hunting with spent a week in a tent in Colorado with a covid positive guy.  The covid guy was sick and coughing a lot.

Caught nothing.  It's not totally predictable, is it?

For two weeks my wife would wake up and ask each other.  “Well?”.    I have no idea how we didn’t get it from our daughter.  Nonetheless we were careful not to intentionally spread it just in case.   Canceled Xmas with my other kids and grandkids.  Canceled the graduation dinner.   Stayed in the house.  

[SpareTime]

2 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

At this point wouldn’t this be better classified as endemic?

A person could make a pretty good case for it.   In my mind,  mild and rapidly spreading variants might be the best of all worlds at this stage.    That,  coupled with seasonal vaccines for high risk patients and availability of early treatment in the event of more virulent strains might be our best path forward.  We will not eradicate it.   

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20 minutes ago, SpareTime said:

A person could make a pretty good case for it.   In my mind,  mild and rapidly spreading variants might be the best of all worlds at this stage.    That,  coupled with seasonal vaccines for high risk patients and availability of early treatment in the event of more virulent strains might be our best path forward.  We will not eradicate it.   

My thoughts exactly!    Hopefully it continues to become less virulent.   

[kjackson]

Try ibuprofen. It helped me after I had an extremely bad reaction to the second Moderna jab.

[gotmuddy]

I just finished the JRE podcast with Robert Malone(one of the inventors of the mRNA vaccine technology). 

One of the things that I found most interesting is that the vaccine lowers T-cells, which is why most people (that I know) getting Omicron are vaccinated.

The other thing actually I have been hearing since the beginning: the easier it spreads the weaker it is. Omicron is extremely easy to catch, but so far has only had one fatality(worldwide)

[SpareTime]

14 minutes ago, gotmuddy said:

I just finished the JRE podcast with Robert Malone(one of the inventors of the mRNA vaccine technology). 

One of the things that I found most interesting is that the vaccine lowers T-cells, which is why most people (that I know) getting Omicron are vaccinated.

The other thing actually I have been hearing since the beginning: the easier it spreads the weaker it is. Omicron is extremely easy to catch, but so far has only had one fatality(worldwide)

I've read a few articles from Malone - I hadn't heard that the vaccine lowers the T-cell population though.   There is I suppose a chance that a IV exposure to a respiratory pathogen could tailor the immune response to predominantly a B-cell/antibody response?  I'll have do watch the episode - I didn't know JR did one with Malone.  I have watched the Peter McCullough podcast - really eye-opening. 

[Ryan Miloshewski]

1 hour ago, kjackson said:

Try ibuprofen. It helped me after I had an extremely bad reaction to the second Moderna jab.

ibuprofen has been my savior! Tylenol has done nothing for me, but ibuprofen is working wonders for my fever and aches.