Oh OK....Thanks... So we are!

[Smalliebigs]

On 1/28/2022 at 7:35 PM, fishinwrench said:

Or..... don't read what doesn't interest you.   Have you visited the prayer page today?    Didn't think so. 🙄

No kidding or the what Am I cooking thread lol

[snagged in outlet 3]

@Nick Adams   The British medical journal agrees with me too.  Dr Campbell does a great job breaking down the article.  He has been fact by the bmj and the bbc in the past for his content on YouTube.  He is fully vaxed and boosted.  I watch him on 1.5 speed. 
 

 

[oneshot]

On 1/28/2022 at 7:35 PM, fishinwrench said:

Or..... don't read what doesn't interest you.   Have you visited the prayer page today?    Didn't think so. 🙄

I do every morning before I start my day.

Son came over asked him if he wanted to listen with me a Sermon this morning. He had to go home.

Found Jesus is the most important thing there is in this world.

oneshot

[Nick Adams]

6 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

The British medical journal agrees with me too.

I agree that releasing data now is appropriate, but the Ron Johnson's and Joe Rogan's of the world are spinning conspiracy theories that are literally killing people. We have a ton of available anecdotal data as well. Millions of people have taken it and now one is dropping dead. A very few people have did drop dead from blood clots in the Atsra Zeneca and I believe at the very least women of certain demographics were advised to not take it. I don't think it was ever available here. Please note: I'm pulling this from my own memory. I'm too busy watching football to google and verify it.

From my perspective, there are a lot of people making a lot of excuses to not get a shot based on faulty or non-existent science. Doing your "own research" when you don't know how to actually do research is a horrible idea. My primary care doctor, as well a most, say that they very vast majority of side effects appear within 6 weeks. Will time tell? Yes, but so far so good.

All of our kids get about 12 vaccinations k-12 that are mandated by the state of Mo. Flu shots for caregivers are mandated in all health systems in MO and have been fore more than 10 years. We've have mandated, government enforced vaccines and quarantines supported by Supreme Court decisions for more than a century for small pox, TB, and more. People and politicians need to stop pretending that our rights are being violated. People also need to find reliable sources to get medical advice. I asked my own doctors, not CNN, Fox, MSNBC or my favorite comedians/podcasters. 

[Basfis]

1 hour ago, Nick Adams said:We've have mandated, government enforced vaccines and quarantines supported by Supreme Court decisions for more than a century for small pox, TB, and more. People and politicians need to stop pretending that our rights are being violated. 

I’m game to hear specifics that back this claim. Show me one that negatively impacted private business and caused people to be fired in conjunction with a shot that only lessens the effect of the illness. The vaccines mentioned actually and literally prevent disease and in some cases eliminated it. 
 

im not saying the vax can’t or doesn’t help. I am saying freedoms are being negatively impacted and that sucks for our Republic. 

[Nick Adams]

19 minutes ago, Basfis said:

I’m game to hear specifics that back this claim

Your quote is empty, so I'm not sure what I need to defend, but there are 10s of thousands of business effected. Just locally, Cox is having to cancel routine visits and schools are closing because they can't get enough subs. If more people were vaxed, it wouldn't spread as much because fewer people would have it. That's not to even note how many businesses in the service industry are short-staffed. Carhartt's CEO said it was a threat to their bottom line.

I'm much more interested in what people think of the flies I posted in the Foam thread though.

[Basfis]

The portion is:

We've have mandated, government enforced vaccines and quarantines supported by Supreme Court decisions for more than a century for small pox, TB, and more. People and politicians need to stop pretending that our rights are being violated. 

Regarding: 

Just locally, Cox is having to cancel routine visits and schools are closing because they can't get enough subs. 

it’s policy canceling things and leaving short handed. Mandatory time off creates shortages. 
 

im vaxed. Had covid. Probably spread it too. The test accuracy still sucks. Test enough you can have time off too. 

[Nick Adams]

1 hour ago, Basfis said:

Mandatory time off creates shortages

What does that mean? Teachers don't have mandatory time off. Cox didn't divert from primary care clinics during the initial wave or the Delta wave. The hospitalizations in the Springfield area are higher than they've ever been. Would they be if more people vaxed? All indication are no.

Again people, look at my foam flies!

[Basfis]

25 minutes ago, Nick Adams said:

What does that mean? Teachers don't have mandatory time off. Cox didn't divert from primary care clinics during the initial wave or the Delta wave. The hospitalizations in the Springfield area are higher than they've ever been. Would they be if more people vaxed? All indication are no.

Again people, look at my foam flies!

The duration of days off is mandated. My kids did 2 days of virtual because policy wouldn’t allow teachers that felt fine to teach in person. We were rejected from an empty urgent care for stitches in my sons hand because they were focused on Rona.

policy is a huge issue.  I only keep going because you claim no freedoms are lost  

 

[BilletHead]

43 minutes ago, Nick Adams said:

What does that mean? Teachers don't have mandatory time off. Cox didn't divert from primary care clinics during the initial wave or the Delta wave. The hospitalizations in the Springfield area are higher than they've ever been. Would they be if more people vaxed? All indication are no.

Again people, look at my foam flies!

          Hey Nick, I looked at your foam fly's! Very nice  .