Oh OK....Thanks... So we are!

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 hour ago, Nick Adams said:

https://www.wuwm.com/2022-01-25/sen-ron-johnson-whos-seeking-reelection-continues-to-facilitate-spread-of-covid-misinformation

Below is the last paragraph of your article.  If this is true then why does Israel with the highest vax rate in the world (estimated at 98.5% of the population) see a huge explosion of infections?  They are the most vaxed and masked country in the world. 

"It’s been one of the largest challenges to messaging, but also to keeping people healthy. I think it's important to stick to the facts. And the facts of the matter are that vaccines work, high quality masking works, boosters work, distancing works. And when you put each of these layers together, you get heightened protection, you get less people infected, you get less people with severe disease that then can't participate in the workforce can't keep our infrastructure running," he says."

But then Rueters reports this:  Article link below but here's the main point of the article.  So which one is true???

Average number of new infections reported in Israel each day reaches new high: Now reporting more than 84,300 daily

COVID-19 infections are increasing in Israel, with 74,435 new infections reported on average each day. That’s 91% of the peak — the highest daily average reported on January 24.

There have been 2,683,443 infections and 8,556 coronavirus-related deaths reported in the country since the pandemic began.

 

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/israel/

[oneshot]

We was encouraged to get the Vaccine at work. I got it.

Then I went to my Doctor who said that was the worst thing I could have done because I have chronic Blood Clots.

Who do you listen to. They had a piece on the lube on swab for Testing will give you Cancer.

oneshot

[Nick Adams]

The vax doesn't protect everyone from infection, though rates are significantly less. It protects again severe illness/hospitalization/death. This is common knowledge and as someone with w/ biology background, you know this.

[snagged in outlet 3]

20 minutes ago, Nick Adams said:

The vax doesn't protect everyone from infection, though rates are significantly less. It protects again severe illness/hospitalization/death. This is common knowledge and as someone with w/ biology background, you know this.

That's the "new" definition of vaccine.  To accommodate for this trial drug.  You don't see an explosion of polio cases do you???

[tjm]

 Smallpox vaccine seemed to protect us all form infection, even though it left scars.

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A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.

 

[Nick Adams]

Snagged, I'm not a virologist or immunologist, but you're not being honest in this discussion. The flu mutates enough that they best years' dose doesn't cover all strains or provided 100% immunity. How long have we searched for a "cure" to the common cold, which is also a corona virus, without even a vaccine let alone something better than Dimetapp. The data shows and non-government experts show that the vaccine is both safe and effective and preventing severe disease. The people who participated in that forum are not experts and are spreading propaganda and misinformation. Only they can tell you why.

[BilletHead]

27 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

That's the "new" definition of vaccine.  To accommodate for this trial drug.  You don't see an explosion of polio cases do you???

            No because the way I understand it we literally eradicated polio didn't we?

Eradication of polio has been defined in various ways—as elimination of the occurrence of poliomyelitis even in the absence of human intervention,^[8] as extinction of poliovirus, such that the infectious agent no longer exists in nature or in the laboratory,^[9] as control of an infection to the point at which transmission of the disease ceased within a specified area,^[8] and as reduction of the worldwide incidence of poliomyelitis to zero as a result of deliberate efforts, and requiring no further control measures.^[10]

In theory, if the right tools were available, it would be possible to eradicate all infectious diseases that reside only in a human host. In reality, there are distinct biological features of the organisms and technical factors of dealing with them that make their potential eradicability more or less likely. Three indicators, however, are considered of primary importance in determining the likelihood of successful eradication: that effective interventional tools are available to interrupt transmission of the agent, such as a vaccine; that diagnostic tools, with sufficient sensitivity and specificity, be available to detect infections that can lead to transmission of the disease; and that humans are required for the life-cycle of the agent, which has no other vertebrate reservoir and cannot amplify in the environment.^[11]

        ^{Same with small pox}

How was smallpox wiped out? | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)

[Nick Adams]

10 minutes ago, tjm said:

Smallpox vaccine

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/health/lateral-thoughts-we-are-dealing-with-a-genius-virus-75445

[Nick Adams]

35 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

You don't see an explosion of polio cases do you???

https://polioeradication.org/news-post/5-reasons-why-polio-can-be-eradicated/

Polio isn't airborne. It's spread through human waste. So, times have changed a bit when it comes to understand sanitation.

Edit: There is also no animal to human transmission of polio. It's a different kind of virus.

[gotmuddy]

3 hours ago, Nick Adams said:

https://www.wuwm.com/2022-01-25/sen-ron-johnson-whos-seeking-reelection-continues-to-facilitate-spread-of-covid-misinformation

In the same thread he was brought up in I linked an article about a study in which it was shown that mouthwash helped prevent the spread of covid.  here it is again: https://www.rutgers.edu/news/certain-mouthwashes-might-stop-covid-19-virus-transmission

Also no one can deny that the **potential** positive effects of using ivermectin has been covered up but I am not wasting time arguing it.

6 hours ago, Terrierman said:

Phil thinks moderation actions should be explained and I'm fine with that, so here you go.

1.  The first thread was locked by me due to multiple personal insults in the thread, not what the video did or did not present.

2.  I deleted the second post of the same video because the first thread went bad and there is no reason to expect anything different in the follow up posts of the same video.

3.  I have no idea if deleting the original post in the second thread also deleted the first thread because of the same content.  But no one intentionally deleted the first thread.

How about banning the people who do this (repeatedly), since some people act like children when faced with idea's they do not like?