Knots, Line, and so on

[Flysmallie]

I’ve had that problem in the past with fluoro. I fixed it though. Fairly easily too. 
 

I went back to doing the same thing I had been doing since 1976 or so. Mono with an improved clinch knot. Maybe a loop knot on certain things. It’s not stylish but it works. 

[tjm]

Over my lifetime, I have had more failures with the Clinch knot than any other knot that I have ever  used, stopped using it for years and only in the past year in discussions like this discovered that my fail rate is because I cut the tag off.  It seems a few knots are like that, they need some tag end to prevent slippage and capsize.  I still won't use it. I use a simple  double overhand knot more than any other for all my fishing needs.

[fishinwrench]

On that beloved "Pitzen" ....

If you actually studied what is securing that standing line after you cut the three "tag ends" off,   it would scare you to death. 

[Dutch]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

On that beloved "Pitzen" ....

If you actually studied what is securing that standing line after you cut the three "tag ends" off,   it would scare you to death. 

Three tag ends??? You must be referencing the Double Pitzen.

[Mitch f]

Another factor I’ve been thinking about is the smoothness of the line. These new fancier flourocarbons have a very smooth surface finish, much closer to mono. With that in mind, maybe those knots aren’t actually breaking but just slipping undone because the tag end was too short. I mean there is a difference in how many times you loop certain knots depending if you’re tying fluoro or mono. 
after all in those videos those lines being tested were not broke but Completely removed from the hook. 
anyway no matter what the reason I’m going to the double Pittzen. The proof is in the pudding

[FishnDave]

I use the Trilene knot most often.  Trilene knot failures with mono or fluoro are extremely rare for me.

Failures were more common when I used to use a Clinch knot.

[tjm]

1 hour ago, FishnDave said:

I use the Trilene knot most often. 

I can never get two passes of leader through the hook eye. But that second pass through the hook eye will make most knots more secure.

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On 1/4/2024 at 5:55 PM, tjm said:

I can never get two passes of leader through the hook eye. But that second pass through the hook eye will make most knots more secure.

Two pass knots for sure on all conventional tackle lures but not on flies.  

[Mitch f]

Another thing I heard from Seagaur is that they recommend chapstick for a line lubricant for cinching. Just the word lubricant always gets  @fishinwrench quite excited. 😆 

ps. Wrench, I’m talking about engine parts

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Mitch f said:

Another thing I heard from Seagaur is that they recommend chapstick for a line lubricant for cinching. Just the word lubricant always gets  @fishinwrench quite excited. 😆 

ps. Wrench, I’m talking about engine parts

Seaguar is pimping Chap Stick now ? 

The corporate web is amazing isn't it?

 

 

If you'd put a little Chap Stick in those TackleMax baits you might get a sponsorship 👍