tjm Posted October 31 Posted October 31 But you know that there will be just as many daylight minutes regardless of the clock setting. Changing clocks seasonally is the silliest thing modern man does. Terrierman and bfishn 1 1
fishinwrench Posted October 31 Posted October 31 4 minutes ago, tjm said: Changing clocks seasonally is the silliest thing modern man does. Ya think? I could list a dozen or more things way more pointless and idiotic than that !
tjm Posted October 31 Posted October 31 No you can't. Nothing can be more pointless and at the same time more irksome. Terrierman 1
fishinwrench Posted October 31 Posted October 31 10 minutes ago, tjm said: No you can't. Nothing can be more pointless and at the same time more irksome. The same day that you'll change your clocks....every church parking lot will be full. And 2 days later all the parking lots where voting takes place will be full. It costs less, & takes way less effort to change your clocks than it does to participate in either of those rituals. Do you really need to be reminded of 10 more things? 😅
FishnDave Posted October 31 Posted October 31 If you work 8-5, I like having an extra hour of light after work. Might be able to squeeze in a quick fishing trip! An alternative would be to keep the clocks the same, and change summer working hours to 7-4. Why didn't they just do this in the first place?
tjm Posted October 31 Posted October 31 19 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: The same day that you'll change your clocks....every church parking lot will be full. And 2 days later all the parking lots where voting takes place will be full. It costs less, & takes way less effort to change your clocks than it does to participate in either of those rituals. Do you really need to be reminded of 10 more things? 😅 Neither of those are mandated by the government. The whole world could operate very well on Zulu Time. 13 minutes ago, FishnDave said: If you work 8-5, I like having an extra hour of light after work. Might be able to squeeze in a quick fishing trip! An alternative would be to keep the clocks the same, and change summer working hours to 7-4. Why didn't they just do this in the first place? Actually they did that in about half or two thirds of businesses when I was kid. But the Congressmen wanted to play golf after work and found it two much trouble to change session times when hired people could just reset the clocks. I recall though that one town near the Or/Id border had four times in use during the summer; MST, MDT, PST & PDT because the time zone line bisected the town. In construction we always started at 0630 or 0700 and season didn't matter that much as we were often using lights at both ends of the day. So if the DST has an advantage as you think, why not retain it year 'round? It would be impossible to calculate, but given several time pieces per person and dozens to hundreds in businesses and schools, I'd not be surprised if each seasonal change cost a $billion or three. Throw in the missed appointments by the million people that missed the bulletin and you have another few $billion.
fishinwrench Posted October 31 Posted October 31 52 minutes ago, tjm said: Neither of those are mandated by the government You aren't officially required, or demanded to adhere to DST. Arizona & Hawaii, don't play that game, and I think Michigan, Utah, and New Mexico are s#!tcanning it soon. I bet the airlines will have fun with that. 😅
FishnDave Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Everybody's different. Nobody has to agree with me. I do like having the extra hour of daylight in the evening after work in the warmer months. Wouldn't hurt my feelings to have it year-round. Heck, make it 2 extra hours of daylight! This could be achieved in other ways, rather than changing clocks. Changing work hours is one way. Changing clocks is also ok by me. After 58 consecutive years, I think most American's are capable of managing their clocks, especially with the help of our ever-present cell phones that update automatically. So many options, certainly some would work. Just for a quick history... here's an AI-generated summary of DST: "The United States began observing daylight saving time (DST) in 1918 to save fuel and power during World War I. The idea was that by shifting time to make use of more daylight hours, the need for artificial light would be reduced. The US followed the lead of several European countries that had also adopted DST during the war. DST was repealed in 1919, but was reinstituted during World War II as "War Time". After the war, states were allowed to choose whether or not to observe DST, but in 1966, the Uniform Time Act standardized DST across the country. The current system of clocks falling back in November and moving ahead in March was established by the Uniform Time Act. "
ness Posted October 31 Posted October 31 I heard some time ago that an American Indian said something like, 'Only the white man can cut a piece off the end of a blanket, sew it back on the other end, and think he has more blanket.' BilletHead, FishnDave, tjm and 2 others 3 2 John
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