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16 hours ago, jdmidwest said:

You do have the right to protect livestock, property, and life with any means.  

Yes and no, animals not subject to that rule are migratory birds, white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk, turkeys, black bears, mountain lions, and any endangered species.  Also  they don't seem to consider bees as livestock,  or domestic animals; so you'd have to have the Agent's permission unless it attacks people or domestic animals. 

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(5) Black bears that are causing damage may be killed only with
the permission of an agent of the department and by methods
authorized by him/her, except that they may be killed without
prior permission if they are attacking or killing livestock or
domestic animals, or attacking humans. Black bears killed
under this rule must be reported immediately to an agent of
the department and the intact black bear carcass, including
pelt, must be surrendered to the agent within twenty-four (24)
hours.

 If the agent won't help you with trapping and removal,  electric fence is  about the only legal option. An empty hive with a bait of honey surrounded by electric fence might train  the bear to leave hives alone, but my hogs could smell when the wire was hot and when it wasn't and I bet a bear can too,  so the hives would have to all be fenced and the fence kept hot all the time. What a PIA.

I'd rather trap the critter and be done with it, but an authorization from MDC is required, perhaps someone in the regional office or Jefferson City could override the local Agent. A large  cubby baited with stale pastries, pies and such guarded by foot snares (special made for bear trapping) seems the most effective means of capture.  

Posted
4 minutes ago, Quillback said:

You'd think MDC would come out and get that bear.  I thought they lived for that kind of stuff.

That depends a lot on the individual agent. Some of the wildlife biologists would jump on it but the contact people for  nuisance animal problems is usually  the local law enforcement Agent. 

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   I guess @jdmidwest you could catch one of your neighbors stray dogs or better yet a cat. Leash it up and tie the leash out. Because it is your pet now. When the bear gets into trouble trying to eat it take care of the bear. Get two problems taken care of at the same time. 

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Posted
14 hours ago, Foghorn said:

Might need to relocate that bear!

MDC has determined that is worthless on a bear that has adapted to human feeding.  It will just go to others.

Plus, my corral has been dismantled and not sure if he will fit into the head catcher we used for cattle.

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Posted
8 hours ago, tjm said:

Yes and no, animals not subject to that rule are migratory birds, white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk, turkeys, black bears, mountain lions, and any endangered species.  Also  they don't seem to consider bees as livestock,  or domestic animals; so you'd have to have the Agent's permission unless it attacks people or domestic animals. 

 If the agent won't help you with trapping and removal,  electric fence is  about the only legal option. An empty hive with a bait of honey surrounded by electric fence might train  the bear to leave hives alone, but my hogs could smell when the wire was hot and when it wasn't and I bet a bear can too,  so the hives would have to all be fenced and the fence kept hot all the time. What a PIA.

I'd rather trap the critter and be done with it, but an authorization from MDC is required, perhaps someone in the regional office or Jefferson City could override the local Agent. A large  cubby baited with stale pastries, pies and such guarded by foot snares (special made for bear trapping) seems the most effective means of capture.  

I got that permission on Sunday.  It attacked my livestock on an established farm operation and caused monetary damage.  It returned Sunday night and spent an hour at its "cached" food location, the place he dragged the hive too to destroy it.  I have an hour long set of photos to back that up on cameras from Sunday evening, visit 2.

But I have removed all food sources, and as of today, 5 pm, he has not been onsite since 9pm Sunday.  Maybe it has moved on.

MDC will probably not be interested in trapping and relocation.

 

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Hunter S. Thompson

Posted
6 hours ago, BilletHead said:

   I guess @jdmidwest you could catch one of your neighbors stray dogs or better yet a cat. Leash it up and tie the leash out. Because it is your pet now. When the bear gets into trouble trying to eat it take care of the bear. Get two problems taken care of at the same time. 

My cat does not seem bothered by it.  It is there every few nights looking for the real bunnies that hang around the farm house.

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