fishinwrench Posted April 8 Posted April 8 4 hours ago, Flysmallie said: Man if I could have any animal as a pet it would definitely be a bear. After about 8 shots of Makers Mark anyone hanging out with you has a bear for a pet. nomolites, Flysmallie and grizwilson 1 2
tjm Posted April 8 Posted April 8 16 hours ago, jdmidwest said: You do have the right to protect livestock, property, and life with any means. Yes and no, animals not subject to that rule are migratory birds, white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk, turkeys, black bears, mountain lions, and any endangered species. Also they don't seem to consider bees as livestock, or domestic animals; so you'd have to have the Agent's permission unless it attacks people or domestic animals. Quote (5) Black bears that are causing damage may be killed only with the permission of an agent of the department and by methods authorized by him/her, except that they may be killed without prior permission if they are attacking or killing livestock or domestic animals, or attacking humans. Black bears killed under this rule must be reported immediately to an agent of the department and the intact black bear carcass, including pelt, must be surrendered to the agent within twenty-four (24) hours. If the agent won't help you with trapping and removal, electric fence is about the only legal option. An empty hive with a bait of honey surrounded by electric fence might train the bear to leave hives alone, but my hogs could smell when the wire was hot and when it wasn't and I bet a bear can too, so the hives would have to all be fenced and the fence kept hot all the time. What a PIA. I'd rather trap the critter and be done with it, but an authorization from MDC is required, perhaps someone in the regional office or Jefferson City could override the local Agent. A large cubby baited with stale pastries, pies and such guarded by foot snares (special made for bear trapping) seems the most effective means of capture. Daryk Campbell Sr and Quillback 2
Quillback Posted April 8 Posted April 8 You'd think MDC would come out and get that bear. I thought they lived for that kind of stuff. Daryk Campbell Sr 1
tjm Posted April 8 Posted April 8 4 minutes ago, Quillback said: You'd think MDC would come out and get that bear. I thought they lived for that kind of stuff. That depends a lot on the individual agent. Some of the wildlife biologists would jump on it but the contact people for nuisance animal problems is usually the local law enforcement Agent.
Flysmallie Posted April 8 Posted April 8 14 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: After about 8 shots of Makers Mark anyone hanging out with you has a bear for a pet. Shhhhhhhh……we weren’t going to talk about that. BilletHead, grizwilson and fishinwrench 2 1
BilletHead Posted April 8 Posted April 8 I guess @jdmidwest you could catch one of your neighbors stray dogs or better yet a cat. Leash it up and tie the leash out. Because it is your pet now. When the bear gets into trouble trying to eat it take care of the bear. Get two problems taken care of at the same time. nomolites, Foghorn and Daryk Campbell Sr 3 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
jdmidwest Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 14 hours ago, Foghorn said: Might need to relocate that bear! MDC has determined that is worthless on a bear that has adapted to human feeding. It will just go to others. Plus, my corral has been dismantled and not sure if he will fit into the head catcher we used for cattle. Daryk Campbell Sr 1 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
jdmidwest Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 8 hours ago, tjm said: Yes and no, animals not subject to that rule are migratory birds, white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk, turkeys, black bears, mountain lions, and any endangered species. Also they don't seem to consider bees as livestock, or domestic animals; so you'd have to have the Agent's permission unless it attacks people or domestic animals. If the agent won't help you with trapping and removal, electric fence is about the only legal option. An empty hive with a bait of honey surrounded by electric fence might train the bear to leave hives alone, but my hogs could smell when the wire was hot and when it wasn't and I bet a bear can too, so the hives would have to all be fenced and the fence kept hot all the time. What a PIA. I'd rather trap the critter and be done with it, but an authorization from MDC is required, perhaps someone in the regional office or Jefferson City could override the local Agent. A large cubby baited with stale pastries, pies and such guarded by foot snares (special made for bear trapping) seems the most effective means of capture. I got that permission on Sunday. It attacked my livestock on an established farm operation and caused monetary damage. It returned Sunday night and spent an hour at its "cached" food location, the place he dragged the hive too to destroy it. I have an hour long set of photos to back that up on cameras from Sunday evening, visit 2. But I have removed all food sources, and as of today, 5 pm, he has not been onsite since 9pm Sunday. Maybe it has moved on. MDC will probably not be interested in trapping and relocation. Daryk Campbell Sr, nomolites and tjm 3 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
jdmidwest Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 6 hours ago, BilletHead said: I guess @jdmidwest you could catch one of your neighbors stray dogs or better yet a cat. Leash it up and tie the leash out. Because it is your pet now. When the bear gets into trouble trying to eat it take care of the bear. Get two problems taken care of at the same time. My cat does not seem bothered by it. It is there every few nights looking for the real bunnies that hang around the farm house. BilletHead, nomolites, Daryk Campbell Sr and 2 others 5 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
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