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Bill Babler

Table Rock 6-11-18 White River Arm

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Outside of Saturday on Taney, I have been on the Rock the past week most everyday launching either out of Shell Knob or Baxter and fishing up to about Viney, which I see is now open for business.

Surface temps are ranging from 84 degree early to 88 in the middle of the day or at least by 11 as that has been my quitting time most days.  Traffic has not been a problem except for the Kids Camp at Twin Rivers.  They are out pulling tubers before 6 am.

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One quick rant and then I'm on with the report.  I'm going to blame them but if not I will say I'm sorry in advance.  Last Thursday morning I was the first boat at the Shell Knob ramp and there were 8 spotted bass floating up and banging on the ramp.  I should have carried them off but I didn't as my client got there while I was still in the mad mode.  I'm sure it was the Wednesday night derby.  After I got back from my trip around 10am there was someone taking photographs of them.  Don't know who or what as they jumped in their car as I was still in my boat approaching the ramp.  This made news or totally made someone else mad besides me.

If I had a dollar for all the fish that has been killed on Wednesday night over the past 30 yrs. out of Shell Knob, I could retire.  I have heard folks say they have gotten better, but last Thursday was an embarrassment if it was the tournament event on Wednesday night that killed those fish.

Fish from Baxter to Viney Creek are still biting and its not hard to catch 30 to 50 on a guide trip with or without live bait.  They are hitting a drop shot worm as well or even better at times than a crawler.

Top bite is hit and miss but I'm catching them really well on a flutter spoon in the same places that usually hold top water fish.  You can see most of these fish and they are at times pushing to the top and at times just holding at the thermocline between 20' and 30' suspended.  I've been catching them by the dozen out in front of the big docks with at least 75' of water at the ends.  Had 7 this morning off a deep dock and a NO Wake Bouy, including two 3 plus lb. LM.

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You can also catch them swimming a 3.3 Keitech right now the same place as the Flutter Spoon, and also off the long runouts up the White and Kings River.

 Also had a nice walter come in on the Keitech this morning, to client and friend Jack Swank.

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Further up the White you get the better the jig bite is.  It is also really good from Baxter to Big Creek.  Unlike Bo, I'm using a huge Nicholes Craw and catching big SM on it, along with some quality spots, Go Figure. Most of these fish are in the 18' to 25" dragging on the bottom, much like a C-Rig.  Using either a 5/16 or 3/4 Pig Sticker FB jib in GP or Brown to do the damage.  Best Craw color as been Texas Craw.  Best top water has been the WP 110 in Loon, and the best color for the Keitech as been Pro blue Shiner.  I'm also using either a 4" Yamamoto cut tail in Brown/Purple or a watermelon Chompers DSW.

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These fish seem to move everyday from location to location so If they are not where you left them yesterday, look on the next runnout.

If I could think of any more information than that you would know more than I do.  On the other hand knowing more than I do is still not all that much.

Good Luck out there.

 

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1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I've caught or have been with buddies who have 100's on the Ned and I have never seen one gut hooked.  I hear it all the time but just haven't seen it.

I won't pretend that's the same everywhere, for everyone, but generally it's not as bad as tubes or split shots.

Doesn't matter what it ate, or where it was hooked, if you aren't extremely careful in hot weather you will kill fish. Especially on a deep lake.

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I can probably count on two hands the number of gut or gill hooked fish I have had on a Ned rig, don't know how many Ned rig bass I have caught, but it's easily over a thousand.  Plus the ones I've seen caught on it by people fishing with me.  It just doesn't happen.  I can't explain it, you'd think they would swallow that little bait down, but they don't.  I use almost exclusively cut Zinkers and Dave's heads with a #2 hook.  

C-rigs, Texas rigs, jerk baits, crankbaits - now those are lures and methods where I have problems with them swallowing it.  

I don't fish the Ned rig because of the low hooking mortality, I fish it because it just flat out works sometimes better than anything else I could fish.  

We're all going to kill some fish just by catching them, we just should all try and minimize the mortality by doing the best we can to minimize hook damage and take care of them as best we can when we put them in a livewell.  

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True.  The way they're eating the deep crankbaits right now you have to be careful just unhooking one.  I had one get the back treble in the gill last week.  Ended up releasing it and it took off in a hurry.  We fished that same area for almost an hour and I never saw a floater so I think it made it.  I hate seeing that happen, but that's the only way we could catch em.

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7 hours ago, jolicious said:

 

I bought some live well lid vents a couple of years ago, and now practically beg others to get a set when we are visiting before and after trips.

May be several versions out there, I don't know - and I am certainly not advertising for these in particular.

Just wanted to give an idea.

No more ice, the air flow takes care of everything.

 

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https://www.newproproducts.com/products.html

I have one of those in my live well lid as the lid is not big enough for 2...I will say this my live well doesn't smell moldy or musty anymore.

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3 hours ago, Quillback said:

I can probably count on two hands the number of gut or gill hooked fish I have had on a Ned rig, don't know how many Ned rig bass I have caught, but it's easily over a thousand.  Plus the ones I've seen caught on it by people fishing with me.  It just doesn't happen.  I can't explain it, you'd think they would swallow that little bait down, but they don't.  I use almost exclusively cut Zinkers and Dave's heads with a #2 hook.  

C-rigs, Texas rigs, jerk baits, crankbaits - now those are lures and methods where I have problems with them swallowing it.  

I don't fish the Ned rig because of the low hooking mortality, I fish it because it just flat out works sometimes better than anything else I could fish.  

We're all going to kill some fish just by catching them, we just should all try and minimize the mortality by doing the best we can to minimize hook damage and take care of them as best we can when we put them in a livewell.  

I have to also agree with Quill. The Ned is just not a fish killer and as Champ said. The way they were caught had nothing to do with their death, what so ever. 

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I was down at Big Cedar the other night looking at all the new Ranger boats they had in the slips, when I saw these guys had caught a 4 lb. LM off another dock. They kept laughing as they proceeded to hand it around, take pictures and Drop It on the dock! All the while blood is pouring out its gills! Made my wife and I so angry.   

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