Fish Kill Article - InFishermen

[Sore Thumbs]

Sad but true. 

[skeeter]

According to news reports, the high water conditions on the lower Mississippi are greatly reduced so the COE should now be able to lower the Tri-Lakes levels much faster.....if they choose to.

 

[vernon]

It is not a Corps "choice".  Releases and lake levels are mandated by Congressional direction and in accordance with the master plan which is also dictated by Congress .  There's nobody sitting around at the Corps this morning trying to figure out how much would be a cool amount to release "today".

[Phil Lilley]

It's about flood control.  

Which is more important... fish or flooding homes, businesses, crops?  I know some of you would say fish but wouldn't that be selfish?  Putting a hobby before someone else's livelihood?

That's coming from someone who has both at stake.  I've been flooded, and my business has been affected by a high water fish kill and I'll take the fish kill any day.

[MOPanfisher]

There are always parameters within which choices can be made.  At this time of year, with the likihood of flooding rains very remote the extra water in the resevoirs are viewed as Megawatts and $$.  Beaver makes some megawatts, then Table Rock, then Empire, then Bull Shoals, why waste the water/megawatts/$$ by simply dumping it if its not necessary, the lakes are doing exactly what they are designed to do.

[Terrierman]

I'm with Bites on this one.  Sewage is not the problem.  Table Rock is still just about as devoid of that as any lake in the country.  The regulations here are some of the strictest there are.  Most every subdivision, even the older ones have sewer systems, and unlike lake of the Ozarks where it is a huge problem there are very few septic and lateral fields here.  The ones are very new age, and there are just about no leach fields, most are evaporation fields.

This water has been high a long time.  We are still near 922, that is just not enough movement.

 

Correct.

[tapout]

I'm with Bites on this one.  Sewage is not the problem.  Table Rock is still just about as devoid of that as any lake in the country.  The regulations here are some of the strictest there are.  Most every subdivision, even the older ones have sewer systems, and unlike lake of the Ozarks where it is a huge problem there are very few septic and lateral fields here.  The ones are very new age, and there are just about no leach fields, most are evaporation fields.

This water has been high a long time.  We are still near 922, that is just not enough movement.

 

Correct and educated. Septic fields that were below the pan and drained into the ground water are no longer allowed. This is just a freaky wet year, the powersite dam had issues, and it just keeps raining, i.e. 3 inches last night in Christian County. High water, decaying plants, no flow..... COE has to balance all aspects and unfortunately "fish lives don't matter."
 

[skeeter]

It is not a Corps "choice".  Releases and lake levels are mandated by Congressional direction and in accordance with the master plan which is also dictated by Congress .  There's nobody sitting around at the Corps this morning trying to figure out how much would be a cool amount to release "today".

Took that word "choice" the wrong way didn't you ?  typical Kansas confrontational attitude.  Try a little non-accusatory courtesy in your next post, if possible.

[vernon]

Took that word "choice" the wrong way didn't you ?  typical Kansas confrontational attitude.  Try a little non-accusatory courtesy in your next post, if possible.

Comment was "if they choose to."  What definition of "choice" should I be employing in order to not be confrontational?  The not so thinly veiled "accusation" was that the Corps might or might not "choose" to lower the water level.  If that's a typical Kansas confrontational attitude then I guess us Kansan's really aren't confrontational at all.  Some are just a little overly sensitive.

[skeeter]

Comment was "if they choose to."  What definition of "choice" should I be employing in order to not be confrontational?  The not so thinly veiled "accusation" was that the Corps might or might not "choose" to lower the water level.  If that's a typical Kansas confrontational attitude then I guess us Kansan's really aren't confrontational at all.  Some are just a little overly sensitive.

Correct, some are sensitive to contrarian, deliberately obnoxious, accusatory, contradictory and deriding comments on a totally innocent posting.  Always someone (you) out there ready to pounce-on, complain-about and belittle some total stranger's thoughts and information.  If you can't say anything positive just shut up !  You should have learned that by the time you were 12 yrs old but didn't. 

FYI, Mr. Wonderful hydrology expert, lower water levels on the lower Miss. DO give the COE the "CHOICE" whether or not to release water from the Tri-Lakes chain.  Prior to the subsiding of the Miss. levels, there was no "choice", the high lake waters were held back to protect the Farmers in the Arkansas Grand Prairie area as well as further downstream on the White and the Miss..