Fishing report 5/9. - 5/11

[big rich]

Hey I wasn't trying to cause a commotion on this forum or anything.   I was just letting some people know that the fish were biting.  I felt like there was enough info in that post to let all you guys that are better fishermen than me that it might be a good idea to head to the lake.  I have a cabin around the Diamond City area that we bought about 4 years ago.   I fish within 5 miles each way of that location.   I usually pick which way I go depending on the wind that day and the sky color that is forecasted.  So,  there is not really a technique or pre thought out idea as to which way I go;   I let the weather point out my direction.   I just know at BS,  the wind is your friend and cloudy days are better than clear.     

I posted earlier during the Elite tournament  (there were about 18 pros around the DC area and I just went around and got a first hand look where they were fishing).    They were all on the shallow flats that I have never fished or would have fished.   They were flipping jigs and drop shots in the bushes.   While they were doing that we were killing them with a fluke.  Man,  we had some real nice fish that day and a lot of them.  But again,  my good friend and he is a hell of a fisherman,  wouldn't quit throwing that darn fluke.   After he caught number 10 I stole his bag of flukes and joined in the fun.    We didn't throw anything else the entire next 3 days.

I posted on here after my 5/9 through 5/11 trip as I said enough info in that post I thought.    I will say this that the we only caught one fish on a fluke.   Several on a Ned Rig and Shaky head and a jig.   Most of this info can be picked up from BS Lake Boat Dock from their weekly fishing report.   DC does a nice job with that report.   you can get a lot of info and BETTER info from them than my little post.   I also said I threw a hard bait and for that one day,  it was the right color and right choice.   However,  I picked it because nothing else was working.   There was no science to my choice.   Depth and water made no difference.

I will post when the fish are biting,  but probably am not one to give a blow by blow of the day like some want as I did above.  If you need more,  get a guide.   

 

 

[mixermarkb]

I can see both sides of this, but generally side on giving a little more away. Maybe it's arrogant on my part, but I have been fishing bull 30 years now. I know how long it's taken me to learn how to do so many of the common techniques. Most of what I'll share, I'm not sure anyone could really do effectively without a lot of time on the water. I'm talking to guys here who fish bull and know the techniques, and I'm sure most of them are not meat hunters, and most of them have their own locations in mind when I say bluff end or flat gravel.

I share here hoping others will share here, because A: I live in STL and accurate report traffic helps me eliminate water gives me a heads up on patterns to try with my limited fishing time, and B: because I am hoping to develop more friends who fish on Bull. If my stuff all gets fished out, then I guess it means I'll have to find new stuff.

[Old plug]

6 hours ago, mixermarkb said:

I can see both sides of this, but generally side on giving a little more away. Maybe it's arrogant on my part, but I have been fishing bull 30 years now. I know how long it's taken me to learn how to do so many of the common techniques. Most of what I'll share, I'm not sure anyone could really do effectively without a lot of time on the water. I'm talking to guys here who fish bull and know the techniques, and I'm sure most of them are not meat hunters, and most of them have their own locations in mind when I say bluff end or flat gravel.

I share here hoping others will share here, because A: I live in STL and accurate report traffic helps me eliminate water gives me a heads up on patterns to try with my limited fishing time, and B: because I am hoping to develop more friends who fish on Bull. If my stuff all gets fished out, then I guess it means I'll have to find new stuff.

i agree. I have been at this 70 yrs. My point is you will find out more by yourself. I do question the stuff about fishimg some pattern from the other day. .You cannot rely on them. As most will do. Two words of wisdom I Live by are fish are where you find them and what ever works for you. For me that is jigs and plastic worms for the most part. A book could be written about everything you can do with these two lures. In short you do not have to buy into the stuff that some certain lure and color catches all the fish because somebody had a good day. But someone else might been out there had a even better day with something else. 

[Champ188]

I totally get what you're saying about location, Mitch. And I fully agree. My posts on the Table Rock forum where I spend most of my time are quite vague when it comes to where I caught my fish. But the way I read Bill's post, that's the one thing he didn't ask for. I thought he was suggesting that Big Rich share more pattern information than location.

As far as lurkers, you better believe there are a ton of folks who come onto this forum, never sign up and take all the info they can find. More during peak tournament season (now) than at other times. And you're also right that the last thing I want to see is for the meat mongers to happen upon any info to help them kill more bass.

Old Plug, this forum is not an advertising vehicle for any guide. Bill's professionalism is his own advertisement and he farms out more trips than you can imagine. There is really still good in some people but you can't see it if your eyes are clouded by cynicism.

[Old plug]

I was talking in general Champ the forum is a tourism instrument for your area. That is not wrong in itself. I actually sort of support that really. More go down there less come here I hope. I miss the old quiet days I suppose. 

[Daryk Campbell Sr]

I am entertained by the way people flop on both sides of the topic.  Not any person, just the whole forum.   One day, it is said that we need to share as much as possible, because the fish won't be there tomorrow.   Then we say, no, loose lips sink ships.   I get out about 4 times a year.   I really enjoy reading every thing people offer.   I understand the possible impact, but also when you consider the larger reservoirs, it is really minimal.   How many fish get taken by the pros?   They "know best" .   They can't catch fish alot of the time,  how would some weekend warriors clean out the lake?  All of the electronics give way more info than these reports.  Ducky Doty did an expirament a few years ago, and it turned out opposite of what most would expect.   He was looked down on, but I thought it was a great try.   

 

The smaller creeks, and rivers, I totally understand need to be protected.   But the larger lakes,  I really don't believe are under that great of pressure.   Most of the posts are talking about pleasure boaters and not fishermen as far as the influx of boats.  

Thanks to all who have posted information to assist others.   Hey, the basics are all that are asked for.  That and respect.

[Mitch f]

16 minutes ago, Daryk Campbell Sr said:

I am entertained by the way people flop on both sides of the topic.  Not any person, just the whole forum.   One day, it is said that we need to share as much as possible, because the fish won't be there tomorrow.   Then we say, no, loose lips sink ships.   I get out about 4 times a year.   I really enjoy reading every thing people offer.   I understand the possible impact, but also when you consider the larger reservoirs, it is really minimal.   How many fish get taken by the pros?   They "know best" .   They can't catch fish alot of the time,  how would some weekend warriors clean out the lake?  All of the electronics give way more info than these reports.  Ducky Doty did an expirament a few years ago, and it turned out opposite of what most would expect.   He was looked down on, but I thought it was a great try.   

 

The smaller creeks, and rivers, I totally understand need to be protected.   But the larger lakes,  I really don't believe are under that great of pressure.   Most of the posts are talking about pleasure boaters and not fishermen as far as the influx of boats.  

Thanks to all who have posted information to assist others.   Hey, the basics are all that are asked for.  That and respect.

You bring up a good point Daryk, I'm coming from a stream/smaller river mindset, reservoirs are very different.

[big rich]

I posted my fishing trip results from May 9th on here mainly to let other anglers know the fish were biting!  We did not toss any secret lures at them.  I also posted a little earlier during the BASS Elite tourney too.

I have a cabin in Diamond City that we bought about 5 years ago,  but have been going to that area for 15 years or so.  ,  so I typically fish 5 miles each way of that put in.  Seems to me that the best days at BS are on overcast days with decent wind.   On my trip from the 9th, we fished until about 10:30 and then went back out around 5 pm each day due to the high sun.   If it is cloudy you can stay on them all day.    So,  for you guys wanting to know the times,  there it is.

During the Elite tourney,  we caught a ton of fish again,  with some real dandies in there.   My buddy was tossing a fluke,  didn't see any of the pros throwing that,  but I bet they wish they would have though.    We had about 15 or so of the Elite guys in and around our area and they were all bed fishing throwing jigs and drop shots.   I also found a lot of good spots from watching them.   they were all on flats in shallow water.

The trip from the 9th,  I left my electronics at home and did not know water temp and depth to the tee.   But,  I would tell you to take a look at the BS Lake Boat Dock sight as they have the water temp and depths outlined pretty darn well.   We did wack them pretty good on the May 9th trip using plastics on the bottom and a couple hard baits   The fluke didn't work at all on that trip.  On BS,  the lure you used yesterday may not work the next day.   So as far as a technique and a decision on what to throw,  we keep doing the same things you guys do until we get some kind of a pattern going on each trip.

We did catch a lot of fish that had not spawned yet that were just fat pigs.   We also caught fish that had spawned out.  We also caught a good share of walleye too. 

I am probably not one that is going to share every minute detail that some guys might want.    I was just trying to let everyone know that the fish are biting.   I would suggest if you need that much more info you hire a guide for a day and then duplicate what you learned.

 

 

[mixermarkb]

6 hours ago, Old plug said:

I was talking in general Champ the forum is a tourism instrument for your area. That is not wrong in itself. I actually sort of support that really. More go down there less come here I hope. I miss the old quiet days I suppose. 

Tourism Instrument? No, that would be the seasonal approximate pattern video ummm I mean fishing report Eric Prey puts out. (Only kidding, I like watching it as well)

All joking aside, this forum here is the single best fishing education tool I've found on the internet. It takes a lot of time on the water to apply the knowledge that can be gleaned here, but short of private Ozark area fishing lessons, I don't know of a finer resource. Many thanks to Phil for the effort in hosting it, and Bill, Champ, Bo, Dave, Quill, 24/7, Mojo, Bluff, Ham, RPS and all the others I know I'm forgetting that share regularly on here. It's an even bigger help to those of us who live a little farther away than you guys probably realize.

[Johnsfolly]

I have learned a lot by the posts on this site over the last couple of years and have fished in many of the waters covered by these forums. I would not have fished those had I not found this site. I also am fairly open about the fish that I catch, the areas that I catch them, and the techniques used to catch those fish. Maybe it is egotistic, but I hope that others can learn from my posts as well. At least a much as one would want to learn about minnows and darters.

I do see a difference in providing specific information for species like crappie, white bass, bluegill, etc. that are found locally abundant at certain times of the year and are targeted for sport and food, than providing a specific location to catch individually large trophy fish like smallmouth, largemouth, trout etc. that are (hopefully) being released. I agree with folks like Mitch that certain bodies of water need more protection than others. Though I do believe that all waters can be overfished such that there are less fish or at least to the point where it affects our own time on the water while dealing with crowds. Each has to decide what information they are willing to divulge in their posts.