OUR CHILDREN

[moguy1973]

54 minutes ago, ColdWaterFshr said:

With all due respect and apologies to Phil for the foul language, this pretty much encapsulates my view on the matter.

https://agingmillennialengineer.com/2018/02/15/-you-i-like-guns-2/

The person in that article gets it.

[Deadstream]

I disagree.  Not afraid to say it.  Nothing I own, inherited has ever hurt anyone. (other then scope eye)

 Guys with better boats, scanners, gear and talent should be outlawed, 

 

[fishinwrench]

3 hours ago, rps said:

Gentlemen: My generation, with good reason, was so opposed to rules, requirements, and expectations that we taught our children to ignore what society expected. We now reap the two or three generations that  come from that. The cycle repeats and repeats.The irony lies in the fact some of us teach or train or supervise those who were raised to pay no attention to us. Penance is a bi****.

The same generation was also pro ☮️ peace. Anti-war, and anti-violence....to the extreme that now you can't even swat a mouthy disrespectful kid.  How did that morph into the worst display of violence among citizens in history?  

Ricky Ricardo used to put Lucy over his knee and bust her butt.  The Three Stooges used to knock the living crap out of each other. And the Skipper used to take off his hat and knock Gilligan cross-eyed every day.  When women would get hysterical the closest man to her would slap the spit out of her mouth.  This is what we grew up watching.  We may not have had violent video games, but we had Rock'em Sock'em robots, played some wickedly violent Dodge Ball at school (better known as Smear the Queer), and the teachers would let a fist fight continue until it was obvious who won.   And they still thought it was a great idea to give us Lawn Darts  

Bullying was rampant!   Yet nobody ever went into school and opened fire, even though there was an arsenal of guns in unlocked vehicles right out in the parking lot.  

Honestly there's no way to make any sense of this.   Must be the chem-trails, the vaccinations, or the fluoride.   Or maybe it's the single parent thing? I have to admit that every kid I knew when I was growing up had both a mom and a dad at home.

[BilletHead]

          Our gym coach had boxing gloves always handy. If there was any crap going on he would glove up the two offenders. He would put them head to head. His favorite saying was "let the gods decide" Then the boxing match would commence to solve problem. We all liked and respected him. If We or  he challenged us to something and we lost our penitence was the dreaded desert laps. Out in California there was a rather large campus and we had to lap it numerous times. We took our punishment and learned from it,

BilletHead

[Ketchup]

Something that i've observed many times over. In no way am i insinuating ANYTHING from my comment, just stating observations:

In my many many homes i have visited while a L.E.O it seems that the lower on the scale of income the family had, the more the parents punished their children when needed. The more money the family had, the more spoiled the kids, therefore less parenting. 

I grew up with very little, and parents who would slap ya silly for the smallest of disrespect within the home. As a parent i have VERY little patience for my kids if they speak without thinking, in return, busting them when needed. 3 are married now and thank me for being the dad i am. They are nurses and school teachers, and see the opposite of what happens when theres no dads like myself in the home.  Not stating anything negative about moms here, as my mom and step mom would both snatch ya up, and grab your ear while spinning ya in circles warming your butt up.  "O how i miss those days"  

 

[Flysmallie]

When I was young there was a large group of us that had BB gun wars on a regular basis. Most of these turned into fist fights at some point with someone getting mad and storming off to their house. And the next day we would do it all over again. It's the over-pussification of America that has created these retards. Oops. Sorry. "Special" people. 

[Ketchup]

I read something today that made sense:  "Kids havent changed, parenting has"

[fishinwrench]

"Parents haven't changed, schools and rules have".  

Alot of parents would make a more effective impression on their kids if school counselors would stay out of it.

[Ketchup]

22 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

"Parents haven't changed, schools and rules have".  

Alot of parents would make a more effective impression on their kids if school counselors would stay out of it.

I like ya wrench, but considering that a child is with a parent more than at school in a 12 month period, i think parents need to take a course in "parenting 101". Its amazing the amount of parents that are physically scared of their kid. My son "now 29" learned the hard way when he was 17 that dad doesnt mess around.  He never made that mistake again, especially at the neighbors again.  

I love kids, but letting a teen run the family doesnt work.  I have 2, 13 year old twin step sons. One is seriously a demon, and the other just in a smaller boat.  Both grew up with parents/grand parents that didnt believe in punishment "What a change when i stepped in" and even to this day, they control their father and grandparents lives 90%. no  exaggeration.  The demon doesnt come around anymore, which without my wife seeing, im glad.  He's been addicted to porn since 11. His father caught him 6 months ago, and pulled the plug on the computer "for the 2nd time" and the kid actually broke his fathers nose. We got the text with pictures, and a question asking what i thought he should do about it.  I REALLY dislike the guy, so i had my wife text back and say get him counseling that we have been asking for, for 2 years.  Still hasnt happened. We let him move in with his father to lessin the stress in my home.  

[fishinwrench]

My dad's rule was "until you can whip me you will live by my rules".  At 15 I thought I could take him, but I was wrong.  He pulled some crazy Air Force Ju-Jitsu stuff on me and mopped up a gravel driveway with my hide.    

My point was that those type things would happen more often if the school and the law would let it.