Longball22 Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 When out with Bill Beck, he would always have a relatively stout split ring and pretty big crane swivel directly on the spoon. I mirror that on mine, and I actually think it helps offset the weight of the hook and create a slower fall rate. (spoon stays more horizontal) I'm along the same lines as most folks with rod selection: 7' MH with a moderate fast to fast action, and 12 or 15lb Maxima. You want some give so that they don't throw the treble. Also, I believe the Dixie Jet comes standard with an EWG Treble hook. If they are eating it well, I will stick with it, as it pins the fish better. If I'm getting hit but not hooking up(they're swatting it), I'll switch to a #2 round bend (Gammie or Owner) so that I have a better shot of sticking those fish that don't want to inhale it.
Bill Babler Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Bill fished his Dixie Jet on 12# Maxi. Rod was either a Falcon Swim Jig which is MH and he used this rod for just about everything or a Falcon Micro Cranker, that is Med. He liked the wide gap mustad that came on the bait, I prefer the Death Trap At times he fished a barrel or sampo type swivel and at times he tied directly to the split rig. You have to add both to the jet. I fish it on Carbon 10 to 15 pound. I could always out throw him and he could always out catch me. In close to 30 years fishing together I cannot ever remember seeing Bill Beck set a hook. His favorite saying was "Point the rod at em and wind it." Don't care what we were fishing from a jig to a fin. On a drop shot he would say "LIFT EM." He got us on a pattern in the early 2000's where we were fishing docks with 1/4 and 3/16 oz. jigs on 8# Maxi. He was a master at this and would just pull them to the boat. I miss my Buddy. Either way line twist are rare. Tom Murphy the owner of DJ fishes without a swivel and likes the spin. Bill was not a fan of braid or for that matter FCarbon. He did fish Carbon on his jig rods at times but never on Lake of the Ozarks he was died in the wool maxima and used it on just about everything. Bill also liked full handle rods. He did have some split handles but much preferred the full cork handle if he could get it in the rod configuration he wanted. He had big meaty paws. He wanted a pretty fast fall on the spoon to create a reaction bite. Said he didn't like them to be able to read the label on it or study it to close Sore Thumbs, magicwormman, big c and 7 others 9 1 http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
evilcatfish Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 While on the subject of spoons....Anybody here ever fished the big mag sized flutter spoons on Table Rock or anywhere else? I love throwing large swimbaits but for some reason I've always found the big spoons intimidating, and a little intriguing. Seems like kind of an esoteric thing
Bill Babler Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 I'm pretty sure the Joe Bass on the Rock this last weekend was won on a 6" Lake Fork flutter spoon. Some of my buddies are fishing 7" to 9" baits right now and they are catching some Hog Mama's. You have to commit to this, if catching 10 plus fish in a day is a priority don't do it. If catching an 8 pounder is, heave away. evilcatfish, abkeenan, 196champ and 2 others 5 http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
dan hufferd Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 I have only fished a flutter spoon a little but I fish a 1/2oz 1/4oz Binks jigging spoon year around, in fact it is my go-to bait I guess. I seem to always try it first, I have caught so many species on a spoon. I still have not tried the Dixie Jet but I will someday I will, when my other ones quit working.😁 Daryk Campbell Sr 1
gitnby Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 On 6/1/2018 at 12:17 PM, Bill Babler said: Bill fished his Dixie Jet on 12# Maxi. Rod was either a Falcon Swim Jig which is MH and he used this rod for just about everything or a Falcon Micro Cranker, that is Med. He liked the wide gap mustad that came on the bait, I prefer the Death Trap At times he fished a barrel or sampo type swivel and at times he tied directly to the split rig. You have to add both to the jet. I fish it on Carbon 10 to 15 pound. I could always out throw him and he could always out catch me. In close to 30 years fishing together I cannot ever remember seeing Bill Beck set a hook. His favorite saying was "Point the rod at em and wind it." Don't care what we were fishing from a jig to a fin. On a drop shot he would say "LIFT EM." He got us on a pattern in the early 2000's where we were fishing docks with 1/4 and 3/16 oz. jigs on 8# Maxi. He was a master at this and would just pull them to the boat. I miss my Buddy. Either way line twist are rare. Tom Murphy the owner of DJ fishes without a swivel and likes the spin. Bill was not a fan of braid or for that matter FCarbon. He did fish Carbon on his jig rods at times but never on Lake of the Ozarks he was died in the wool maxima and used it on just about everything. Bill also liked full handle rods. He did have some split handles but much preferred the full cork handle if he could get it in the rod configuration he wanted. He had big meaty paws. He wanted a pretty fast fall on the spoon to create a reaction bite. Said he didn't like them to be able to read the label on it or study it to close I first fished with Bill Beck back in 1977, and many times after that. Spoon, Fat Gitzit, Road Runner,Brown plastic worm, Devil's Horse, Redfin, Green Pumpkin Fish Doctor and a smoke grub. Man, we caught some fish on those baits. And, you're right, Bill was not a big fan of 'crossin their eyes'. Said he lost more fish by setting the hook than by letting the fish set it. dan hufferd and evilcatfish 1 1
dan hufferd Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Someone should print all this off and put it in a book. Great thread
Bill Babler Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 If me or Rick Lisek were guiding or calling Bill to much and we kept screwing up he would tell us we were "Exhausting". Bill and I were fishing a derby and catching them on that little jig and lite line and I know I told Champ this story, we pulled into one of the big docks in Fisher Creek and Bill caught a limit before I even made a cast. I just put bouy's on them and put the in the box. He said it was my turn and he just got out of the front seat and picked up the net. I promptly broke 2 off setting the hook on that lite line and he flounced down in the seat sighed and said I was done. Just laughed so hard tears came to my eyes. He put up with my "No Fishin Butt" so much it was simply ridiculous. At times we would both just sit down and laugh till we teared up. The day I culled the fish with the bouy still in its mouth his eyes got as big as saucers and he just said "Really", then slapped me in the face with another 3 pounder. InPiney, Daryk Campbell Sr and snagged in outlet 3 3 http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
snagged in outlet 3 Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Do any of you know Al Alfoltus? Not sure if I spelled his last name right. Guided on TR years ago.
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