Missouri's next record brown trout

[tjm]

27 minutes ago, Quillback said:

They are fish from the same hatchery as the "normal" browns, they aren't some special strain.  In the unlikely possibility that they do spawn, it's the same as if the hatchery browns stocked in the river spawn.  They aren't some kind of freaky genetic mutation.  

Do any of the browns spawn in Taney? Is it even possible?  I had thought trout needed "headwaters" type streams to spawn in, but I'm no authority.

[MoCarp]

this might help

What is a triploid May 13 2015.pdf

[Quillback]

6 minutes ago, tjm said:

Do any of the browns spawn in Taney? Is it even possible?  I had thought trout needed "headwaters" type streams to spawn in, but I'm no authority.

I don't know either, but the point was that if some of these triploids managed to spawn, it would be no different that if the non-triploid browns spawned.

They (browns) do spawn below Bull Shoals dam.  

[tjm]

Did not know that.

The concern was not that they would reproduce, their stuff is sterile, it was that they would disrupt the spawn by competing with fertile males, if I understood it correctly.

[Terrierman]

2 hours ago, Quillback said:

They are fish from the same hatchery as the "normal" browns, they aren't some special strain.  In the unlikely possibility that they do spawn, it's the same as if the hatchery browns stocked in the river spawn.  They aren't some kind of freaky genetic mutation.  

Facts have a liberal bias.  At least that's what I've heard.  #forgettheconspiracytheory

[tjm]

I guess the fact is they are a mutation caused by heating, shaking or pressurizing the eggs at just the right time.  It's pretty freaky that we want to figure out how to do this. Never mind that we spend other peoples money doing it. All for fun, too, with no really practical application.  

 

 

 

[Quillback]

There is a practical application, farm raised fish.  One of the Indian tribes in Washington state was raising triploid rainbows in a net pen farming operation on one of the big impoundments up there (Rufus Woods lake).  They grow faster than non-triploids so at one time the fish farmers were raising them - don't know if that is the case anymore - but some of them escaped from the net pen which led to one of them being caught and becoming the Washington state record rainbow trout.  It was 29 lbs. I believe.

[Johnsfolly]

I know that I may get some grief but folks have been producing and releasing triploid grass carp for decades. They are stocked for weed control and because they are considered sterile should not overpopulate the lake or pond that they were released into. Lots of issues with this practice. 

I don't know how long folks have been producing triploid trout.

[Johnsfolly]

I have voiced my opinion on other threads about whether triploids should be considered as state or world record fish. I would love to catch some but still think that they be considered separately from diploid trout for record considerations.

[Quillback]

The Bella Vista lakes have a few grass carp in them, put in for weed control as JF states.  Accidently snagged one once while fishing a jerk bait, guessing it weighed about 15 lbs.  Nice looking, streamlined bodied fish.