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[Gavin]

I agree. Spoonbill is a stupid and wasteful  fishery. If those hatchery spoonbill are so special you should have to log in and report the details of your catch. Please report the date, time,  length, sex, etc. Seth may disagree, but thinking the snag & release is not good. Thinking you gotta keep all you snag, Limit 3. The state could easily license buyers to clean & pack your fish in exchange for a percent on egg sales.

 

[tjm]

FCOL, all sport fishing could be called stupid and wasteful, C&R more so than the eaters. The spoonbill was part of building that stupid wasteful dam at Kaysinger, iirc, they made some kind of deal with satan  or the environmentalists to maintain that fishery or species at previous levels, forever. 

Probably should require tournament fishers to eat all the bass they catch too. I like that idea as long as I don't have to eat the trout. I don't care a bit about the carp or the spoonbill or the walleye, but when you throw the guys that do under the bus, you have to expect the same will happen to you. If MDC spends $1 on striped bass or hybrids, that is a thousand times too much, but ask someone who likes those stinking things and he will say it's never enough.

[Seth]

9 hours ago, Gavin said:

I agree. Spoonbill is a stupid and wasteful  fishery. If those hatchery spoonbill are so special you should have to log in and report the details of your catch. Please report the date, time,  length, sex, etc. Seth may disagree, but thinking the snag & release is not good. Thinking you gotta keep all you snag, Limit 3. The state could easily license buyers to clean & pack your fish in exchange for a percent on egg sales.

 

It was verified last year that you are legally supposed to keep all paddlefish of legal length in MO. Then again, how do you prove a fish was of legal length if you don't get to witness the measurement? They'll never be able to enforce it.

MDC does a very good job at managing the snag fishery for paddlefish, but they tend to get butthurt when you bring up some of the things that Oklahoma does that most of us are in favor of. A big one is the fish cleaning stations that can sell the eggs. Why let all of that $$$ go to waste? While I don' think that would be worth the cost to set up a cleaning facility for Tablerock and Truman, you can't tell me that Warsaw doesn't have enough traffic to make it feasible. Oklahoma allows catch and release, but you are limited to one barbless hook on your line while snagging. You are also allowed one fish per day and two for the season. I'd like to see all three of those implemented here in MO.

[Quillback]

The can't keep the eggs regulation is wrong IMO.  If you catch one you should be able to keep the eggs.  

[snagged in outlet 3]

45 minutes ago, Quillback said:

The can't keep the eggs regulation is wrong IMO.  If you catch one you should be able to keep the eggs.  

So if you snag a spoony legally you can't keep the eggs???

[Quillback]

5 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

So if you snag a spoony legally you can't keep the eggs???

That's my understanding.  

[snagged in outlet 3]

5 minutes ago, Quillback said:

That's my understanding.  

That's crazy!!

[Quillback]

I think my understanding is wrong, took a look at the regs and it says you can't have extracted eggs in your possession on the banks or transporting them.  So it appears you can take the whole fish home, then take out the eggs.   I wonder how you make caviar?   Not something I'll ever do, but curious if anyone has made it out of paddlefish eggs and if it tasted any good?

[Johnsfolly]

36 minutes ago, Quillback said:

I wonder how you make caviar?   Not something I'll ever do, but curious if anyone has made it out of paddlefish eggs and if it tasted any good?

I remember a show about making caviar, maybe a dirty jobs show. I just looked up a Hank Shaw recipe to make steelhead caviar. Seems easy to do but not simple. Have to separate the eggs from the membranes and cure them in a brine. How to separate them from the membranes is tricky. The dirty jobs show used a sieve. Also the saltiness of and the time in the brine can be tricky as well. 

I have had flying fish and salmon caviar. Not bad. Never paddlefish ot sturgeon.

[Flysmallie]

1 hour ago, Johnsfolly said:

I remember a show about making caviar, maybe a dirty jobs show. I just looked up a Hank Shaw recipe to make steelhead caviar. Seems easy to do but not simple. Have to separate the eggs from the membranes and cure them in a brine. How to separate them from the membranes is tricky. The dirty jobs show used a sieve. Also the saltiness of and the time in the brine can be tricky as well. 

I think it was an episode of How's it Made. I remember seeing it.