The mine again

[fishinwrench]

6 minutes ago, Brian Jones said:

Wrench: if those pointers you offered Gavin are 65's (the ones you pretty much have to throw on spinning gear) I'd be interested in them.

 

I was thinking they are 78's....but I'll dig them out and see tomorrow (if I can manage to not space it off).   Either way you are welcome to them.    

IMO a rod light enough to throw them is too light to work them right.....so I'll never use them.    

 

[Gavin]

If you like the shorty LC's Brian, I have a few...Will dig em out and PM you a photo. Probably 78's in standard or DD. Prefer 3.5", 4", and 5" jerkbaits. Might have a sale on some extras in the near future.Discovered a plano full of Rapala floaters....and cant remember where they came from.

 

[Johnsfolly]

7 hours ago, Gavin said:

If you like the shorty LC's Brian, I have a few...Will dig em out and PM you a photo. Probably 78's in standard or DD. Prefer 3.5", 4", and 5" jerkbaits. Might have a sale on some extras in the near future.Discovered a plano full of Rapala floaters....and cant remember where they came from.

 

I'm finding it hard to get the Rapala floaters especially F9 to F11. PM me if you might want to sell some Gavin.

[Gavin]

F9 & F11‘s for sure

[fishinwrench]

These don't say what they are.  I have a couple more (same ones) in the boat, but it's all buttoned up and I'm not in the mood to uncover it. 

[Mitch f]

On 8/9/2020 at 5:23 PM, SpoonDog said:

I think Pebble is a great example of the sort of headwinds younger generations face when dealing with the legacy of the past.  

Many young people today understand their history- many understand it better than their parents.  They understand where we came from- warts and all.  In the case of Pebble, they understand we've destroyed every single major run of Pacific salmon up and down the coast- and now we're set to wreck this one, too.  Previous generations let salmon runs collapse because we wanted cheap timber, or cheap metals, or cheap beef, or cheap power, or enough water to irrigate potatoes or sugar beets in a part of the world that gets ten inches of rain a year.  Each one of those compromises tied the hands of future generations.  Now, there's precious little left to compromise.  Young people understand that.

I don't have the temerity to argue someone working two or three jobs has a poor work ethic.  I think a lot of young people understand older generations have created a situation where work ethic is immaterial.  That Guy complaining about young people's work ethic isn't going to pay them $12/hr to put a roof on the house, when they can run down to Home Depot and get a crew that'll do it for $8/hr, all the while crowing about personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility and free-market economics.  Young people today understand That Guy.  They've been dealing with That Guy for a while now. 

That  Guy complains how young people don't understand How We Got Here, as young people deal with 30-40 years of stagnant wages, rising healthcare/insurance/education costs, student loans, crumbling infrastructure, etc.  We got here because That Guy didn't want to deal with it.   

That Guy complains about college students cheering about affordable healthcare, when young folks realize health insurance in this country is largely tied to employment, and 2008 wasn't a particularly spectacular job market.  

That Guy complains about schools he votes to defund as being bastions of liberal/socialist ideology because they can only attract teachers who aren't in it for the money-because there isn't any.  That Guy complains about students not reading history books their district couldn't afford to purchase because That Guy voted someone into office who demonized education and committed to slashing budgets.

That Guy's decisions tie the hands of future generations.  Now, they're trying to navigate a way out.  

 

 

 

That guy you’re talking about sounds pretty much like a business owner who employs people. There are thousands of us who can easily spot the bull

[DADAKOTA]

If your kids end up lazy, entitled, and don't want to work I'd look to their upbringing.

[fishinwrench]

29 minutes ago, DADAKOTA said:

If your kids end up lazy, entitled, and don't want to work I'd look to their upbringing.

I've said that before too.   But I've seen it not add up way too many times.  

Take 3 kids all raised in the same house, same rules, same incentives, and eating out of the same box of Cocoa Puffs..... You'll have one real go-getter, one lazy bum, and one that's somewhere in between.   But Wait....check on them again in 20 years.   People evolve.

[DADAKOTA]

Guess I got lucky then.

[Gumboot]

42 minutes ago, DADAKOTA said:

Guess I got lucky then.

Me too.  And to Wrench's point, the one that was the biggest pain in the posterior from middle school on... has a job that he enjoys and a great family.  Never underestimate the power of a good woman.