Borderline insanity

[Topwalker]

Since when should you tell anyone how to spend there money? If anyone goes into a small club level tournment and thinks they are gonna make money they need to rethink y they are there but I enjoy fishing tournments for the competition and I've met alot of new friends and made some great memories. But telling someone they should go spend their money on other things than tournments is completely ridiculous. This is a free country 

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8 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I'm not clear on who is being impressed by any of this.

The guy in the picture. 

[Devan S.]

All Fishermen: Wake boats destroy docks and cause massive shoreline erosion. We don't care what amount of money you bring to the economy we want them boats restricted or banned.

Wake Boaters: We bring so much money to the local economy you can't get rid of us.

Non-tournament fishermen: tournament fishing has become too large and we think the impacts are detrimental to the fishery.

Tournament Fishermen: We bring so much money to the local economy. You can't ban us. 
 

[fishinwrench]

8 hours ago, Topwalker said:

Since when should you tell anyone how to spend there money? If anyone goes into a small club level tournment and thinks they are gonna make money they need to rethink y they are there but I enjoy fishing tournments for the competition and I've met alot of new friends and made some great memories. But telling someone they should go spend their money on other things than tournments is completely ridiculous. This is a free country 

When they start constantly relocating one of my favorite fish species to a level that depletes some areas of the lake, and stockpiles others. That's when!

It is unnecessary.  There are other ways to score these things that do not negatively effect the fishery, and do not negatively effect anglers that practice TRUE C&R.  There is no need to relocate fish 20-40 miles away.  No need for that at all.   

It wasn't a big deal back when there were only a couple tournaments per month.   But look at the regatta list for each month NOW.  It's a big deal now.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Devan S. said:

Tournament Fishermen: We bring so much money to the local economy. You can't ban us. 

I don't want tournaments banned.  I want them to stop the old school scoring method because at the level it is being done these days it is NOT COOL ANYMORE.  

If they are going to continue on with the current format, then they should hike the entry fees up to the point that it clears out the rif-raf, and the winner actually gets a substantial amount of money.   There's no reason to move all those fish around just so a few guys can win enough to buy dinner and drinks.  (Turn those 200 boat events into 20 boat events that actually mean something, and all the 30-50 boat events into 5-10 boat events).  If you really think you're a stud.....then put up some actual coin to prove it !   Piss on this 50-100.00 entry BS.  That's child's play.

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Holy Cow!!!  3,420 boats in May alone.

https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/WP04Web/app/searchRegattaWeb?action=Search+Again

[dblades]

51 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

I don't want tournaments banned.  I want them to stop the old school scoring method because at the level it is being done these days it is NOT COOL ANYMORE.  

If they are going to continue on with the current format, then they should hike the entry fees up to the point that it clears out the rif-raf, and the winner actually gets a substantial amount of money.   There's no reason to move all those fish around just so a few guys can win enough to buy dinner and drinks.  (Turn those 200 boat events into 20 boat events that actually mean something, and all the 30-50 boat events into 5-10 boat events).  If you really think you're a stud.....then put up some actual coin to prove it !   Piss on this 50-100.00 entry BS.  That's child's play.

When did the fee's get high enough to keep you out? I know a lot of rif raf with money, so I don't think that's the answer..

[fishinwrench]

52 minutes ago, dblades said:

When did the fee's get high enough to keep you out? I know a lot of rif raf with money, so I don't think that's the answer..

Oh I disagree, it's definitely an answer to the alleged problem.   90% of these guys nearly have heart failure and lie to their wives regarding a 400.00 repair bill.  They darn sure aren't gonna fork out over 1k per month in tournament entry fees unless they really feel confident in their ability to finish in the top tier of a 20 boat event.  

It wasn't the fees that made me stop, it was the fact that it is way easier for me to take their money (and more of it) by fixing their boats... than it is to CONSISTENTLY beat them at the fishing game.  There is some hella good fishermen out there, and I might beat them occasionally, but odds are I'm not gonna beat them most of the time.  

I fish because I love fishing.  I have no need to try to prove anything to anyone, because I already know how it's gonna work out...and so should 98% of the guys that are crowding the weigh-in lines.   Back when I was making a living by fishing T's and guiding I was in the line to get a check nearly every single event I fished, but it still wasn't enough to pay my mechanic and realize a decent profit.  Eventually I got smart and decided that instead of being a pro fisherman I wanted to be the guy that was getting all of my "winnings". 😊  

I'm giving good advice here, you can dispute it all you want but one day you will realize that I'm right, and you'll wish you had all that money back that you pissed away trying to be a "Hammer".  

[PHhunter]

16 hours ago, Champ188 said:

It isn't a one-time thing. It's hundreds of boats day after day after day … and the cumulative effect is far from laughable. If 1, 10, 100 or 1,000 bass are taken off their beds during the spawn, then there CERTAINLY has been an effect. The effect simply grows by the number of fish.

And yes, weather and water levels also affect the spawn. 

I'll play a little. Sure it has an impact, that isn't the question. Does it have a significant impact on the fishery. How big is the lake? How many fish are spawning? What percentage of those fish are moved and then do not successfully spawn. Any studies that prove this issue to be true? I tend to believe that such a small portion of the bass are caught that it really has no impact on the fishery as a whole. I could be convinced otherwise with some data.

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, PHhunter said:

I'll play a little. Sure it has an impact, that isn't the question. Does it have a significant impact on the fishery. How big is the lake? How many fish are spawning? What percentage of those fish are moved and then do not successfully spawn. Any studies that prove this issue to be true? I tend to believe that such a small portion of the bass are caught that it really has no impact on the fishery as a whole. I could be convinced otherwise with some data.

Why are there daily and possession limits then ?  

You look across that lake and see all that water, and you think it is all productive fish habitat just because it's wet ? 

If the whole lake is just full of fish, and no matter how much you shuffle them around it has no ill effects.... then why is everyone burning up a full tank of gas on every tournament day?    Their words contradict their actions.

Why would a tournament angler not want to score a fish immediately instead of having to babysit it all day, and then stand in a bag line ?