snagged in outlet 3 Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Terrierman said: Have you been to the Oklahoma City Memorial? An incredibly moving experience that I recommend to everyone. I have not. Our company supplied the foundation piles for The one World Trade Center also know as the freedom Tower. I was there shortly after it opened and it was one of the most heart wrenching experiences of my life. Even thinking about today almost makes cry like when my mom died. Terrierman, MOPanfisher, Mitch f and 1 other 1 2 1
oneshot 1 Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 I hauled 48,000 pounds of Oxidizer wasn't worried as much as Matches or Hair Spray. Just came back from town and it was empty. Last week the stores were packed. Didn't think about it but my wife said last week everyone got their Stimulus Check. oneshot
oneshot 1 Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 You know our President was right fast as Sanitizers work it is too bad we can't use them inside . oneshot
Mitch f Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 7:37 PM, Terrierman said: I'm willing to bet Mitch $1,000 that the next time I pee it stinks to high high heaven, Will you offer terms of like net 360 days? 😂 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Johnsfolly Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 Unless there is a way to address the underlying issues that result in the violence of the mass shootings it doesn't matter if you get rid of the guns. Columbine shooting occurred while I was in N Ireland. Had to constantly hear about the gun crazy Americans. The people that were killed and injured by the car bombings that occurred while I was there was far more acceptable.
jdmidwest Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Johnsfolly said: Unless there is a way to address the underlying issues that result in the violence of the mass shootings it doesn't matter if you get rid of the guns. Columbine shooting occurred while I was in N Ireland. Had to constantly hear about the gun crazy Americans. The people that were killed and injured by the car bombings that occurred while I was there was far more acceptable. Ya, a pound of plastic explosive in your back pocket is far less deadly and only gets what you aim at.... Ireland has its terrorist problem, much worse that ours. Kinda like a civil war. Terrierman 1 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
MOPanfisher Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 Violence has been with us since the dawn of time and always will be. There a fair amount of contention as to who this quote is from, but it still rings true to me. Even if what we as individuals do is small the cumulative effect is large like picking up trash. THe key is knowing what to do and how to do it. I guess we can rely on our legislative bodies to tell us? Every terrible piece of legislation often has at its roots a truly benovolent desire to do something good, however the very process by which it happens in a legislative body dooms it.
oneshot Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 To prove a point there are ways to kill many people in one place without a Firearm. AR15 are just for show. I have seen a Ball Bat consider a weapon and I’m sure at the time it was an Assault Weapon. oneshot
MOPanfisher Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 I am one of "those guys" who say Assault is an action. Not a weapon. It's what yiu do with it, could be an assault bat, an assault propane tank, etc. It's all in how it is used. In the hands of a good guy an AR/M4 or a good shotgun is a valuable life saving tool to stop a bad guy from taking lives. For some reason the idiots who go off the deep enf to display and carry a rifle I public irritate me, dumbest things I have ever seen. Although to the best of my knowledge none of the big demonstrations of gun owners has created any shooting incidents. More happen at gun shows, have seen some real geniuses there, was working the door on a small local o e, when one of the dealers (I knew him by name) went out the door and came back a few minutes later with an AR he had but to show a customer. Whoa, hold up and let me safety check it, mag was out but I cycled the bold and out popped a loaded round, I was ticked, he was embarrassed but still could have easily been wayyy worse. We talked about it later and he was still embarrassed and apologizing.
Terrierman Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, MOPanfisher said: I am one of "those guys" who say Assault is an action. Not a weapon. It's what yiu do with it, could be an assault bat, an assault propane tank, etc. It's all in how it is used. In the hands of a good guy an AR/M4 or a good shotgun is a valuable life saving tool to stop a bad guy from taking lives. For some reason the idiots who go off the deep enf to display and carry a rifle I public irritate me, dumbest things I have ever seen. Although to the best of my knowledge none of the big demonstrations of gun owners has created any shooting incidents. More happen at gun shows, have seen some real geniuses there, was working the door on a small local o e, when one of the dealers (I knew him by name) went out the door and came back a few minutes later with an AR he had but to show a customer. Whoa, hold up and let me safety check it, mag was out but I cycled the bold and out popped a loaded round, I was ticked, he was embarrassed but still could have easily been wayyy worse. We talked about it later and he was still embarrassed and apologizing. All true. Don't ask me to explain why the mass shootings took such a big surge in this country. But you can ask me if an AR 15 is a very effective tool for anyone who decides that's their thing. Widely available, relatively cheap, self loader, low recoil and very effective anti personnel round, high capacity detachable box magazines also readily available. So is ammunition.. The obvious answer is yes, it's a great killing tool. I'm not advocating any kind of ban on AR rifles or high capacity magazines, they're everywhere now. However, I do wish they had never been unleashed on us. But I don't get to go back in time and make that wish come true.
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