Lie detector test, What is going on??

[cmoore03]

Forgive me but I just don't understand, we have a Memorial Tournament, yet the big fish and largest stringer have to take a lie detector test?? How much did these places pay and what is the purpose of the test, is there that much cheating going on on the Lake? 

[fishinwrench]

They pay the examiner about 400.00 if an examiner is actually present.

The purpose of the test is to shut up anyone that happens to throw a fit about being "cheated".  And to deter anyone from trying to cheat by requiring them to agree to submit to a polygraph test IF THEY WIN.

Very seldom does any cheating truly happen....but occasionally it does...but nobody can be convicted of, or even openly accused of cheating, if the only evidence is failure to pass a polygraph examination.    If (according to the examiner) you fail the test they still have to give you the money....unless you just say "darn I didn't pass the test" and forfeit your winnings.   

Polygraph tests are a psychological game that begins with the initial interview before the "test" is given, and ends after your reaction to the examiners comments AFTER the test.    An actual "lie detector machine" does not exist.  With a little psychology training you can perform a "polygraph test" with 3 Gummy Bears and 10 feet of 4# monofilament.

[aarchdale@coresleep.com]

If you read the rules in any tournament, its pretty standard that you "COULD" be subjected to a test.    Who cares, take the test and collect your winnings.   

[Phil Lilley]

Last time we had one administered one of the anglers did not pass. 

We hold multiple tournaments throughout the year.  Word gets around we give polygraphs and all tournament should be aware we’re serious.  Some payouts exceed $1500.  

i would appreciate if you take the wtf out of the title. 

[mmirg]

I wondered how you verified that people weren't cheating for that tournament.  I missed the part about the lie detector.  Makes sense to me. 

[fshndoug]

Good job Phil

[Phil Lilley]

Thanks

[Bill Babler]

Last year the Bill Beck memorial tournament had test.  If you were in the top 3 or big fish you had to take it.  It is quite different than it used to be.  I took it and they placed an electrode on a band around your neck that covers your carotid.  It is hooked to a lap top that makes reading from test or baseline questions.

Even in this modern age of technology the test is only deemed 70 to 90 percent accurate as it compares your answers to your baseline questions and it can be flawed.  A multitude of factors can cause it to be inaccurate.

In some states it is not admissible in court.  Where it is admissible it is not intended to solely convict or acquit but be a part of the puzzle which ever side you are on.

As someone stated earlier if you fail it during a fishing tournament you still get paid.  Probably won't be allowed to fish that circuit again but your still getting a check.  It is used as more of a deterrent to prevent cheating than a legal means to punish for it.

[Seth]

I doubt there is much cheating going on in these tournaments either, but it never hurts to remind anglers that you’re not bluffing.

[hillbillyflyshack]

We finished second and my partner won the flip to take the test of course he passed it but we had no reservations about taking it. I believe it is a good idea if for no other reason than to keep everyone honest so as to not have a question about the winners whomever they may be. By the way it was first time we ever got a sniff and I've been fishing this thing from the start as I was fortunate enough to have known Mr. Elfrink and think he was a very helpful gentleman and a great man.