Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted November 30, 2020 Root Admin Posted November 30, 2020 Here's a study by MDC on our freshwater shrimp population. Lake Taneycomo Invertebrate Sampling.pdf MoCarp and dpitt 2
fishinwrench Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 So what have we learned about scuds and sowbugs THIS TIME that we already didn't know ? Typical MDC method of operation.....Study it until it is extinct. 🙄 trythisonemv 1
Johnsfolly Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: So what have we learned about scuds and sowbugs THIS TIME that we already didn't know ? Typical MDC method of operation.....Study it until it is extinct. 🙄 I would bet money that you hadn't even looked at the report before you commented. The biggest reason is that this study was done in 1987 and it was performed to try to understand fluctuations in the condition of the trout in the lake at that time. Trout are kind of a big deal in Lake Taneycomo. The fluctuations in fish condition was attributed to a decline in the amphipod and isopod populations. What was also learned from the report was evidence that the potential cause of the reduction in amphipods and isopods within the lake between 1980 and 1987 was attributed to the runoff surrounding the area. Based upon that information there may have been attempts to reduce the runoff impacts due to nutrient loading and siltation into the lake which should have had a positive affect on the amphipod and isopod populations. tjm, jfrith and Daryk Campbell Sr 2 1
Dutch Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Johnsfolly said: I would bet money that you hadn't even looked at the report before you commented. The biggest reason is that this study was done in 1987 and it was performed to try to understand fluctuations in the condition of the trout in the lake at that time. Trout are kind of a big deal in Lake Taneycomo. The fluctuations in fish condition was attributed to a decline in the amphipod and isopod populations. What was also learned from the report was evidence that the potential cause of the reduction in amphipods and isopods within the lake between 1980 and 1987 was attributed to the runoff surrounding the area. Based upon that information there may have been attempts to reduce the runoff impacts due to nutrient loading and siltation into the lake which should have had a positive affect on the amphipod and isopod populations. Would that have been about the time that the golf course was built down there? One of the old guides told me that it did a number on the lake.
Johnsfolly Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dutch said: Would that have been about the time that the golf course was built down there? One of the old guides told me that it did a number on the lake. That was one of the concerns with the nutrient loading going into the lake.
BilletHead Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 I would love to see a updated report on this like as in now. it is crazy some of the pictures Phil gives us. We all know what we are told of the dead ones stranded on the White when it is shut down. "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
fishinwrench Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Johnsfolly said: I would bet money that you hadn't even looked at the report before you commented. And, if it is the same study from way back then, with nothing fresh added, then you would lose your money. My money says that IF there is anything fresh added.....it is insignificant. Which is why I didn't bother to "download the file" this time. trythisonemv 1
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted December 1, 2020 Author Root Admin Posted December 1, 2020 If you must know, someone saw one of my videos and was asking what type of scuds we had. So I posted the study here as a placemark so he could read it. Thought it would be good info in anyone wanted to read it in the future. As for why they declined - I believe MDC trout guys have established that the decline was caused by over population of fish in the lake. Since then, MDC has reduced stocking numbers and it seems to us, by the simple evidence of seeing these periods of huge swarms of bugs, that each time they drop stocking numbers, scud populations go up. We have the same golf courses, more development but the scud population seems to be doing pretty good. It's also evident I think by the great growth rate we're seeing now with rainbows in the trophy area. BilletHead, trythisonemv, fishinwrench and 3 others 3 3
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted December 1, 2020 Author Root Admin Posted December 1, 2020 This was the video. fishinwrench and BilletHead 1 1
fishinwrench Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 I would think that the constant Up/Down fluctuations of a tailwater would drastically effect the scud population. Especially in the upper end. I know that crawdads are extremely scarce below Bagnell and Truman dams. trythisonemv 1
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