Dec 21, Big M area

[abkeenan]

32 minutes ago, Royal Blue said:

I'm sure that's why too, but any breeze and that smaller head is hard to feel too.  I end up swinging for the fences with a jig usually instead anymore.  I will 100% recommit to the Ned at some point though.

I rarely throw it just because it's not my cup of tea. But when I do it's on one of Dave's heads and 1/16 or 1/8th. Like you, if I'm bouncing something on the bottom is going to be your standard jig, a big straight worm on a magnum stand-up head, D-Bomb on a swing head or big c-tail worm/brush hog on a jika rig. I don't fish on the MLF Tour so I'm not forced to fish the Ned for 45 one pounders.

[Quillback]

4 hours ago, Royal Blue said:

Honest question:  If the keitech is too snaggy, how in the world aren't you losing a ton of neds?  I all but stopped fishing the ned because it has felt like all I do is spend time trying to get it unsnagged.  

I now am using these heads, I too miss Dave's and after a lot of experimenting I use these.  I broke one off today, on a really bad day I might lose 2 or 4.  I use 1/8 oz almost all the time, and I like a #2 hook as the smaller hook won't get you hung up as much.  Dave always recommended a #2 on his heads.  It is tough to find Ned heads with a #2 hook.

Hayabusa Baby Shooting Ball Football Jig 4pk - Tackle Warehouse

[Quillback]

I went back today, flat calm for most of the morning but when I left at around 1:30 PM it was really blowing.  19 today, 2 were keepers, only 2 on the Keitech the rest were Ned fish.  The bites today were more in the areas I expect them to be this time of year, timber on steep banks, but also found a couple back in a cove.  Open water Keitech fish had vamoosed.

Caught 5 short walleye, biggest was a 1/4 inch shy of bring a keeper.  Had another one on I believe, sliced the half zinker lengthwise.  

Scenery pic, blue sky and calm water.

[rps]

1 hour ago, Quillback said:

I now am using these heads, I too miss Dave's and after a lot of experimenting I use these.  I broke one off today, on a really bad day I might lose 2 or 4.  I use 1/8 oz almost all the time, and I like a #2 hook as the smaller hook won't get you hung up as much.  Dave always recommended a #2 on his heads.  It is tough to find Ned heads with a #2 hook.

Hayabusa Baby Shooting Ball Football Jig 4pk - Tackle Warehouse

First, nice fish Jeff.

Second, I use the same heads with the #2 hook. I Also use snips to cut off the lead below the head. The plastic threads on easier and cleaner that way.

[Quillback]

1 minute ago, rps said:

First, nice fish Jeff.

Second, I use the same heads with the #2 hook. I Also use snips to cut off the lead below the head. The plastic thread on easier and cleaner that way.

Good idea on the snips, that little bait keeper is annoying.

[Alex Heitman]

Best ned head other than Dave’s is the one by 5 fish lures 

[Johnsfolly]

2 hours ago, Quillback said:

I went back today, flat calm for most of the morning but when I left at around 1:30 PM it was really blowing.  19 today, 2 were keepers, only 2 on the Keitech the rest were Ned fish.  The bites today were more in the areas I expect them to be this time of year, timber on steep banks, but also found a couple back in a cove.  Open water Keitech fish had vamoosed.

Caught 5 short walleye, biggest was a 1/4 inch shy of bring a keeper.  Had another one on I believe, sliced the half zinker lengthwise.  

Scenery pic, blue sky and calm water.

Nice bass Jeff. Great photo! Too bad no keeper walleye.

[Macsimus]

7 hours ago, Alex Heitman said:

Best ned head other than Dave’s is the one by 5 fish lures 

+1

[Quillback]

11 hours ago, Alex Heitman said:

Best ned head other than Dave’s is the one by 5 fish lures 

I have not heard of that one, I will have to look it up.

[vernon]

For Neds I think Bo's NuTech crappie jig head is pretty dang good too and about impossible to lose due to hangups.