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Small game and fishing license is only 6 or 8 dollars more than fishing alone.  I haven't went out for small game in a few years,  but I always get them together.  I like to have the option always available.   I always get a trout stamp also. For less than a movie and popcorn,  I can go out as many times as I want for fun in the woods and water within seasons.   

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59 minutes ago, Daryk Campbell Sr said:

Small game and fishing license is only 6 or 8 dollars more than fishing alone.  I haven't went out for small game in a few years,  but I always get them together.  I like to have the option always available.   I always get a trout stamp also. For less than a movie and popcorn,  I can go out as many times as I want for fun in the woods and water within seasons.   

   Bingo!

"We have met the enemy and it is us",

Pogo

   If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend"

Lefty Kreh

    " Never display your knowledge, you only share it"

Lefty Kreh

         "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!"

BilletHead

    " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting"

BilletHead

  P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs"

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2 hours ago, Daryk Campbell Sr said:

Small game and fishing license is only 6 or 8 dollars more than fishing alone.  I haven't went out for small game in a few years,  but I always get them together.  I like to have the option always available.   I always get a trout stamp also. For less than a movie and popcorn,  I can go out as many times as I want for fun in the woods and water within seasons.   

Daryk I have always felt the same. Been buying all of those licenses for a long time. If I was still in MO I could have figured out a few spots to get you out for some bushytails. I have also thought that I have always got my money's worth every year. Hope that you feel the same year after year 👍👍

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5 hours ago, tjm said:

Getting caught has no bearing on the legality of anything. If it ain't legal it ain't legal.

I guess I might have been referring to becoming involved in the legal system.  Which suggests that absent getting caught and thereby entering the legal system, you are good with the law.

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17 hours ago, tjm said:

The answer is "it depends"

Every groundhog is a damage causing groundhog, it's what they do. It's why we have 3 CSR 10-4.130

If you are a resident landowner, you don't need a permit on your land,  if you are are over 65 or under 15 you don't need a small game permit at all.

The Code is available online at no cost and is self explanatory- https://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3csr.asp

I knew you did not need a fishing permit, over 65. But did not know you did not need one for small game. 

Like I said I had bought a permit anyway. 

The problem is being resolved. I evidently have a male that has 2 females in the den. Because I have seen as many as 12. They are starting for the garden. Thats where it ends. 

I am not sharing my food with any of them. And season is open. 

If anyone wants the meat, let me know. They say there in the squirrel family. I eat squirrels but not groundhogs. They also say that they can climb tree's which I have verified, 2 days ago.  

 

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1 hour ago, Maverickpro201 said:

I knew you did not need a fishing permit, over 65. But did not know you did not need one for small game. 

Like I said I had bought a permit anyway. 

The problem is being resolved. I evidently have a male that has 2 females in the den. Because I have seen as many as 12. They are starting for the garden. Thats where it ends. 

I am not sharing my food with any of them. And season is open. 

If anyone wants the meat, let me know. They say there in the squirrel family. I eat squirrels but not groundhogs. They also say that they can climb tree's which I have verified, 2 days ago.  

 

                Yes, then can climb trees!  Our dog Sadie rip treed them here all the time. Never have eaten one but might someday. Grandma said in lean times ate them all the time.  

"We have met the enemy and it is us",

Pogo

   If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend"

Lefty Kreh

    " Never display your knowledge, you only share it"

Lefty Kreh

         "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!"

BilletHead

    " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting"

BilletHead

  P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs"

BilletHead

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29 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

                Yes, then can climb trees!  Our dog Sadie rip treed them here all the time. Never have eaten one but might someday. Grandma said in lean times ate them all the time.  

Tried opossum once, when I was young. all I can say is I would rather eat poop than that again. that stuff was terrible. Cannot really say what I want to say it tasted like on here. 

But Groundhog may not be to bad since they are in the squirrel family. especially the young ones. But I want someone else to try it first and then let me know how it was. TRUE fully. 

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2 minutes ago, Maverickpro201 said:

Tried opossum once, when I was young. all I can say is I would rather eat poop than that again. that stuff was terrible. Cannot really say what I want to say it tasted like on here. 

But Groundhog may not be to bad since they are in the squirrel family. especially the young ones. But I want someone else to try it first and then let me know how it was. TRUE fully. 

                It is true. Know several that have eaten them. Just not us yet. Not afraid just not a young one at the right time. Muskrat and beaver we have eaten and they are good.

"We have met the enemy and it is us",

Pogo

   If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend"

Lefty Kreh

    " Never display your knowledge, you only share it"

Lefty Kreh

         "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!"

BilletHead

    " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting"

BilletHead

  P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs"

BilletHead

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21 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

                It is true. Know several that have eaten them. Just not us yet. Not afraid just not a young one at the right time. Muskrat and beaver we have eaten and they are good.

Yep have had beaver, good stuff. Racoon Good stuff. Muskrat no opinion.

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Young groundhog is good. The old ones are tough, just like chickens. They might get tender under pressure, Mom always just pan fried them. The skins make strong tough laces or whang leather, Grandpa had me cut the strips about an inch wide,  they lose width as they are stretched length wise. Groundhogs, like muskrats and cows,  are vegetarians, possums like buzzards are scavengers, meat as a rule takes on the flavor of the diet.

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