trythisonemv Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 I don't own guns. I have used them as tools over the years for pest control ... Food harvest ... Property protection. I don't own guns. The second amendment is fundamental to our sovereignty as free people. I am a constitutionalist now and forever... Our culture seems to ignore all relevant data on gun crime especially deaths. They focus on instances where firearms are used improperly and never when they are used to save lives. They focus on guns killing instead of holding the people who improperly use them accountable. I don't own guns. Roy Blunt senator from Missouri is siding with gun control measures thay would subvert our second and fourth and fifth amendment rights. I sent him an email sharing my issue with this legislation. I would encourage all who favor freedom and the constitution to do the same. My apologies if this is offensive to anyone. I am strictly concerned with the bill of rights and its guarantees to the citizenry of the nation. If they take guns or speech they can take anything . . . snagged in outlet 3, Daryk Campbell Sr, Maverickpro201 and 2 others 5
Dutch Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 Do you even know the provisions of the proposed legislation? I think you are oversimplifying this. I have always had guns, long guns, short guns, shot guns. This is one of the very few items upon which Blunt and I can agree. Nick Adams 1
FishnDave Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 Are guns being taken away? From what I've read, the bill would raise the age limit for purchasing a semi-automatic rifle to 21 and prohibit the sale of ammunition magazines with a capacity of more than 15 rounds. Someone under 21 could still own/hunt/shoot with rifles that are bolt-action, lever-action, and pump-action. I didn't see any mention of changes regarding hand guns. I realize there could be much more to the legislation than the very little I've read.
Nick Adams Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 "well regulated militia" apparently the 3 most misunderstood words in the English language. Hawg, MoCarp and Maverickpro201 3
Hawg Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Dutch said: Do you even know the provisions of the proposed legislation? I think you are oversimplifying this. I have always had guns, long guns, short guns, shot guns. This is one of the very few items upon which Blunt and I can agree. Do tell snagged in outlet 3 and Deadstream 2
Maverickpro201 Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 The Red flag law is dangerous. Anybody can say what they want to say. But if your wife, ex-wife, brother, sister, mother, neighbor, , etc. thinks you may be a danger, because they are mad at you, or just do not like you are guns and report you to authorities, some made up story, they will come and take your guns. You will have to go to court and you may or may not get your guns back. So what are the re=coarse that you have for the person making a false statement. Are the authorities going to go and arrest this person also and prosecute them to the fullest, for making false statements. Probably not. age 18 is not changing from what I have read, but a more thorough look into the teenagers past will be taking place. Like sealed Juvenile records. More mental health programs, this only works if the family is aware, wants to be aware or even around for some people. I know I will never be a SHEEP!!! So the wolfs can come and get me. Basfis, Hawg, snagged in outlet 3 and 1 other 4
BilletHead Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 Good discussion let's keep it this way please. It only takes one person to make it go away. The new law if it becomes law will cause a slippery slope to start more measures. I do think we are all in agreement this problem is all a mental thing. It takes a real mental problem to take a life. Basfis, trythisonemv, MoCarp and 1 other 4 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
Hawg Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Maverickpro201 said: The Red flag law is dangerous. Anybody can say what they want to say. But if your wife, ex-wife, brother, sister, mother, neighbor, , etc. thinks you may be a danger, because they are mad at you, or just do not like you are guns and report you to authorities, some made up story, they will come and take your guns. You will have to go to court and you may or may not get your guns back. So what are the re=coarse that you have for the person making a false statement. Are the authorities going to go and arrest this person also and prosecute them to the fullest, for making false statements. Probably not. age 18 is not changing from what I have read, but a more thorough look into the teenagers past will be taking place. Like sealed Juvenile records. More mental health programs, this only works if the family is aware, wants to be aware or even around for some people. I know I will never be a SHEEP!!! So the wolfs can come and get me. Basfis, trythisonemv, Deadstream and 1 other 4
Hawg Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Dutch said: Do you even know the provisions of the proposed legislation? I think you are oversimplifying this. I have always had guns, long guns, short guns, shot guns. This is one of the very few items upon which Blunt and I can agree. d p
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