oneshot 1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, mic said: No, because the address is not classified. I believe what you are referring to are documents of historical value. So if the White House destroyed all of the drafts, meeting minutes, and supporting docs of a State of the Union, that would be illegal. If I remember my history correct, that law came out of Watergate because the White House was destroying the "record" of what all occurred. OK didn't know. I know I'll go to the office pick up something look it over. Have been told I wasn't to be reading it. Well don't leave it laying out. oneshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T.J. Clarke Posted January 26, 2023 Members Share Posted January 26, 2023 mic said all nicely. I would just add the human nature factor since we were cavemen. Humans like a whisper, whisper, wink, wink secret. It is in our DNA. On a side note, Washington DC insiders who leave bureaucracies make big $$$ trading on their security clearence. It is bread and butter for them. Self-serving circle. tjm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinwrench Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, Terrierman said: If it wasn't for that crack pipe those everywhere else places wouldn't ever get anything done. I know it's true because you told us so.🎯 This stands true. There wouldn't even be a road to get to my place if wasn't for Methamphetamine. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Slight off topic, but a funny/cool story. I once had to escort a locksmith to a classified safe because the lock broke. He pulls off the lock, and no kidding it is made of plastic. I was like what the heck, what kind of piece of crap is that. Then the NSA rep that I worked with told me why. Way, way back in the day, the CIA made a portable xray machine that they could stick to a safe and see the lock's keys. After a while it became common knowledge in the intel world and was declassified. However, we assumed if we had one, the Russians had one. So all certified locks for classified safes where changed to a material that the xray machine couldn't see. I thought that was James Bond level cool. nomolites, bfishn and BilletHead 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinwrench Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, mic said: Slight off topic, but a funny/cool story. I once had to escort a locksmith to a classified safe because the lock broke. He pulls off the lock, and no kidding it is made of plastic. I was like what the heck, what kind of piece of crap is that. Then the NSA rep that I worked with told me why. Way, way back in the day, the CIA made a portable xray machine that they could stick to a safe and see the lock's keys. After a while it became common knowledge in the intel world and was declassified. However, we assumed if we had one, the Russians had one. So all certified locks for classified safes where changed to a material that the xray machine couldn't see. I thought that was James Bond level cool. Hey, as long as it remains locked even if it's heated up..... that's some fine engineering. 👍 Plastic bearing retainers have saved many a crankshaft. Self lubricating....for awhile.....when friction heat occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot 1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Had $250K one time. I just took and locked it up. I was told afterwards that I should have had a Witness to cover my back side in case some was missing. Got wrote up one time for not wearing a Tie. oneshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrierman Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 ^^ are you sure you want to post that? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot 1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, fishinwrench said: My wife would laugh and say they will kill you. oneshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfishn Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I closed out the '70s as an Electronics Performance Inspector for a KC defense contractor that was running >6K employees over 3 shifts churning out guidance, fuzing, radar and other assemblies for a variety of nukes. Hired in with 32 others of my kind in a 'batch'. We all got paid union wage to sit on our butts reading magazines for the 90 days it took the FBI (before they farmed it out to contractors) to talk to everyone that knew us since we were born, looking for any reason to drop you. 6 or 7 lost out right off. Another half dozen were removed over the next year for lying in their interviews. I specialized in reinspection. Testing random samples of stockpiled assemblies and sub-assemblies, mostly ASROC. Got to closely examine some really cool stuff. Testing included everything but destructive, you put your item in a 500 degree oven and test it. then a dip in liquid nitrogen... and test it. Then on the arm of a 5G centrifuge... and test it. This was done exactly per written, classified files you had to check out and return in the same shift. You had to prove a need-to-know purpose for your material. Those file keeper guys were some no-fun-havin, miserable SOBs. Point is, everyone knew that not only their livelihood, but perhaps even someone's life depended on never disclosing what you know. Ever. That's my experience with classified documents. I've since realized that at the other end of that chain lies a handful of people that not only can, but need to access everything. The early me wants anyone who abuses that access to pay dearly. The old me ain't so sure. Quillback and Gavin 2 I can't dance like I used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinwrench Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Terrierman said: ^^ are you sure you want to post that? Asking for a friend. I actually didn't watch it all the way through. Did it go over the edge? If so, sorry. I'll ditch it.....and be more careful in the future. Speaking of that.....Have y'all seen that Turbo Tax commercial that's been playing lately? Holy crap, they are really pushing the borderline, ain't they? Even a crass jack-off like me is like.....Woah, Easy Now! 😳 Terrierman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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