Do away with 30,000 dams?

[snagged in outlet 3]

On 11/10/2023 at 9:22 PM, Terrierman said:

Operation and Maintenance workers, both male and female, basically trained and certified in theory that were tasked with running water and sewer systems.  Hard to find good people in that field on a good day.

That’s what I assumed but wanted to make sure.  At our mill and fab shops we have a “Key employee payment” program.  In an effort to keep good people.  Very tough to find and even harder to keep.  

[jdmidwest]

On 11/11/2023 at 6:09 AM, snagged in outlet 3 said:

That’s what I assumed but wanted to make sure.  At our mill and fab shops we have a “Key employee payment” program.  In effort to keep good good people.  Very tough to find and even harder to keep.  

At our shop, key employees have to drag the dead weight ones around while doing both our dedicated tasks and theirs too.  We call them zombies, wandering around looking at FB or Tiktok all of the time.  Our only rewards are laughing at the stupidity.

[Flysmallie]

7 hours ago, jdmidwest said:

Our only rewards are laughing at the stupidity.

Theirs or yours? 
 

I’m not going to say I don’t have any slackers, but everyone in my stores works. Period. If you can’t then you have to go. 
 

Even if you are a hard worker, if you cause drama, you are out. 

[jdmidwest]

6 hours ago, Flysmallie said:

Theirs or yours? 
 

 

I often wonder....

[tjm]

On 11/10/2023 at 8:38 AM, Terrierman said:

How so?

Most of the electricity used in the E part of the hybrid is fossil fuel derived and there  are energy loses at every stage of the conversion, transmission, transforming, rectifying, ect. Until we are producing all our electricity with nuclear, the Es are actually using more fossil fuel than not. The way to cause cars to use less fuel is to work near home or live near work. We need to redesign our cities to eliminate nearly all commuting. Perhaps make every high rise office building   be 2/3 residential. With every block required to have a grocery and a hardware store. Or we can BS our way into extinction telling ourselves that the phase of cars will be powered by perpetual motion motors.

No doubt that electricity is more efficient than diesel once you have made the electricity and moved it to the place of use. But the key is to track the energy and  relate  the total energy input to the end work.  At my age it doesn't matter what you will have done to the earth in 50 years. But I see more negatives than positives in battery construction and use.

[snagged in outlet 3]

2 hours ago, tjm said:

. But I see more negatives than positives in battery construction and use.

Better not overlook disposal.  

[Champ188]

On 11/9/2023 at 10:03 AM, snagged in outlet 3 said:

It’s called a hybrid.   Been around for years.  Late 90’s I think.  

Hybrids are no longer "efficient" enough for our big-city transplant yups down in NW Arkansas. They're going full-blown EV's or bicycles. Oughta try to get around Bella Vista these days ... very common to run into a big line of cars and wonder, Flowers? Then find out there's a single bicycle taking up the middle of the lane up ahead and refusing to move the heck over to the side of the road. Because it's their "right" to impede traffic.
Exactly the reason that Donna and I are 2 years from packing up and moving home to Hot Springs Village, where we used to live. Eleven lakes to fish ranging from 33 to 930 acres in size --- all with concrete boat ramps and managed primarily for fishing. There are also nine immaculate golf courses and 24-hour manned gates at the main entrances. Property owners use a computer chip card to enter after-hours at q couple of additional unmanned gates. 

And practically NO bicycles. Heck no, those old folks aren't gonna pedal around on bicycles when they can ride like kings in their golf carts, this guy included. Might be a few younger yups there but not many, and the ones who actually are there spend 3 hours a day or so commuting to Little Rock and back for work, which doesn't leave a lot of time to jam up traffic with their bicycle buddies. 

Oh yeah, rather than $165 a year or whatever the ridiculous boat registration fees are up to now in BV (I don't support the BV POA unless i absolutely must, at least not until they stop paying the general manager over $300K a year and the golf director 175K) the Hot Springs Village annual registration fee for my 20-foot Ranger is $79. And despite not being able to launch without a lake ranger showing up to quiz you on what you're fishing for, what you're throwing, how deep --- i.e., everything but his JOB --- there are unregistered trailers and boats on these lakes that are supposed to be property owners only. Of course, the BV golf courses are wide open to the general public and it shows. Property owners get no preference for tee times, instead getting bumped by all manner of society (dress code is totally ignored and there are no marshals on the course anymore) just out to ride around the course getting drunk, hitting wildly into other groups on other holes and tearing up property that is paid for by our monthly dues (which, of course, our "guests" don't pay).

Less than half the price for some stupid-good fishing (the biggest lake, Balboa, also has a very healthy population of spotted bass, which the lakes management folks down there encourage folks to keep a mess of for eating so that a healthy balance remains between largemouth and spots. 

I realize a lot of this is of no interest to you folks in Missouri, but others have a vested interest in Bella Vista and its mounting issues with our $300K a year POA "leader" allowing the Walton grandsons to tear up 50+ years of a lovely place to retire and turning it into a bicycle/yuppy-palooza.

[snagged in outlet 3]

44 minutes ago, Champ188 said:

Hybrids are no longer "efficient" enough for our big-city transplant yups down in NW Arkansas. They're going full-blown EV's or bicycles. Oughta try to get around Bella Vista these days ... very common to run into a big line of cars and wonder, Flowers? Then find out there's a single bicycle taking up the middle of the lane up ahead and refusing to move the heck over to the side of the road. Because it's their "right" to impede traffic.
Exactly the reason that Donna and I are 2 years from packing up and moving home to Hot Springs Village, where we used to live. Eleven lakes to fish ranging from 33 to 930 acres in size --- all with concrete boat ramps and managed primarily for fishing. There are also nine immaculate golf courses and 24-hour manned gates at the main entrances. Property owners use a computer chip card to enter after-hours at q couple of additional unmanned gates. 

And practically NO bicycles. Heck no, those old folks aren't gonna pedal around on bicycles when they can ride like kings in their golf carts, this guy included. Might be a few younger yups there but not many, and the ones who actually are there spend 3 hours a day or so commuting to Little Rock and back for work, which doesn't leave a lot of time to jam up traffic with their bicycle buddies. 

Oh yeah, rather than $165 a year or whatever the ridiculous boat registration fees are up to now in BV (I don't support the BV POA unless i absolutely must, at least not until they stop paying the general manager over $300K a year and the golf director 175K) the Hot Springs Village annual registration fee for my 20-foot Ranger is $79. And despite not being able to launch without a lake ranger showing up to quiz you on what you're fishing for, what you're throwing, how deep --- i.e., everything but his JOB --- there are unregistered trailers and boats on these lakes that are supposed to be property owners only. Of course, the BV golf courses are wide open to the general public and it shows. Property owners get no preference for tee times, instead getting bumped by all manner of society (dress code is totally ignored and there are no marshals on the course anymore) just out to ride around the course getting drunk, hitting wildly into other groups on other holes and tearing up property that is paid for by our monthly dues (which, of course, our "guests" don't pay).

Less than half the price for some stupid-good fishing (the biggest lake, Balboa, also has a very healthy population of spotted bass, which the lakes management folks down there encourage folks to keep a mess of for eating so that a healthy balance remains between largemouth and spots. 

I realize a lot of this is of no interest to you folks in Missouri, but others have a vested interest in Bella Vista and its mounting issues with our $300K a year POA "leader" allowing the Walton grandsons to tear up 50+ years of a lovely place to retire and turning it into a bicycle/yuppy-palooza.

You gotta feel a lot better after getting that off your chest😆.     $300k?!?!   That’s crazy.   

[Champ188]

7 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

You gotta feel a lot better after getting that off your chest😆.     $300k?!?!   That’s crazy.   

Nailed it, snagged ... as you frequently do. And yes, I do feel better momentarily ... thanks.
Hard to swallow that $300K for a budget no bigger than he manages. Then there's the restaurants manager who is making somewhere near $200K, then the golf agronomist, the aforementioned golf director, the recreation director (for pursuits other than golf) and on and on.

Precariously top heavy and not in the sense us gentlemen normally prefer. 

[dan hufferd]

On 11/12/2023 at 6:18 AM, jdmidwest said:

At our shop, key employees have to drag the dead weight ones around while doing both our dedicated tasks and theirs too.  We call them zombies, wandering around looking at FB or Tiktok all of the time.  Our only rewards are laughing at the stupidity.

In the day there were merit based raises and apprenticeship learning. I think school is great, it should be more kinetic. In other words actually do something to prove yourself. Most managers are fb'ers and tiktok'ers too.

Oh my goodness i can get wound up about this.

We better get back to the dam thing😁