Livescope out of hand

[fishinwrench]

I wish that someone who is good at livescoping would answer this one.....

How do the fish react when you turn your "Hydrowave" on ?  🤔

[tjm]

4 hours ago, Lvn2Fish said:

It does not take away the need for knowledge of bass migration and movements . It still takes skill to make them bite and to present the lure to them. It’s very very difficult to let a 3/8 ounce jig head sink and intersect a fish swimming 50 ft down . The timing , boat movement , wind , line size . So many different variables just to get it in front of one . Some days that fish will attack with reckless abandon . Many more days he knows somehow that this little minnow is indeed not living . And that’s just a damiki example . Traditional techniques pair nicely with FFS . These techniques are never going away. Example: Pair FFS with crashing a rock crawler . You’re not going to use it like you would in the suspended fish application . But you can still see activity . You see targets to crash the crank into . Occasionally you may pick one off that you see . But it really helps just finding the right things.  I  don’t really think it’s helped me catch more big fish . These big table rock fish are far more educated than we give them credit for . And their eyesight is completely remarkable . I feel like Ive learned how the bigger fish move and feed at least in the pre spawn . And only this year. And only on one section of lake . Every year is different. And every area of the lake fishes different .This year I watched a group of large bass swim 6 ft down over 100 ft . They moved from 6ft to 40 ft in about 20 seconds . Then after they went down they came right back up and swam up on top of a point in 10 ft of water . What’s fascinating is just watching fish movement and the way they interact with forage and one another . The bigger ones seem to hunt in packs , they roam and they investigate everything that catches there eye . And that’s just one species . The three all act different . Spots have been the least nomadic. Before when I pictured fish migration it would be in a straight line swimming from here to there . They have no rhyme or reason for what they do. A lot of the time its completely random . They go left right up down back wards and straight at you all in a minute. I’ve seen them feeding along side loons in something right out of National Geographic . I understand the worry that it’s somehow going to adversely effect fishing . But I’m telling you there are so so so many fish in this lake . And only a small percentage of those are suspended where you can even see them . Table Rock is an absolute forest . There are sycamore trees out in 100 ft of water that are topping out 20 ft down . They are monsters with limbs extending 50 ft off of them . Cedars that are so thick you can’t even get a lure into them . Ledges and bluffs . Caves and cracks in under water cliffs.  There are so many places that hold huge groups of fish that will never be seen on a unit . Like Dock said the area that these fish inhabit is exponential . From 2 ft of water to out over 200ft of water . And everything thing and every piece of cover in between . 

Sounds like a tool better suited to research than to fishing. I have spent days walking stream banks and watching fish feed and rest and interact; then I have spent other days applying what I learned from  those observations with rod and reel. Not so much time on lakes, but what you describe isn't that surprising to me.

[waterpossum]

10 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I wish that someone who is good at livescoping would answer this one.....

How do the fish react when you turn your "Hydrowave" on ?  🤔

Do you have a color selector or PH meter in your arsenal?

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11 hours ago, Lvn2Fish said:

I understand the worry that it’s somehow going to adversely effect fishing . But I’m telling you there are so so so many fish in this lake . And only a small percentage of those are suspended where you can even see them . Table Rock is an absolute forest . There are sycamore trees out in 100 ft of water that are topping out 20 ft down . They are monsters with limbs extending 50 ft off of them . Cedars that are so thick you can’t even get a lure into them . Ledges and bluffs . Caves and cracks in under water cliffs.  There are so many places that hold huge groups of fish that will never be seen on a unit . Like Dock said the area that these fish inhabit is exponential . From 2 ft of water to out over 200ft of water . And everything thing and every piece of cover in between . 

Thx!.  Would you be able to see the same things with SI/DI?

[Lvn2Fish]

15 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Thx!.  Would you be able to see the same things with SI/DI?

To some extent yes . But there’s just so much of it out there . In my experience it’s so thick in places the SI kind of jumbles together . But I’m not running graphs that are anywhere near as capable as they can be . 

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2 hours ago, Lvn2Fish said:

To some extent yes . But there’s just so much of it out there . In my experience it’s so thick in places the SI kind of jumbles together . But I’m not running graphs that are anywhere near as capable as they can be . 

Wait till they apply AI to FFS combined with imaging.  Who knows what they’ll come up with.  

[fishinwrench]

4 hours ago, waterpossum said:

Do you have a color selector or PH meter in your arsenal?

I never fell for the Color-C-lector, but I burned up a lot of fuel running around testing the pH of this lake and Truman. 

It was crap like that which likely started me on my path to not trusting biologists. 

[tjm]

19 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

testing the pH of this lake and Truman. 

Does that vary with depth?

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23 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

It was crap like that which likely started me on my path to not trusting biologists. 

But you’re a biologist 😆

[Mitch f]

Just now, snagged in outlet 3 said:

But you’re a biologist 😆

At least he knows the difference between a man and a woman, which is better than some of our Supreme Court judges