fishinwrench Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I wish that someone who is good at livescoping would answer this one..... How do the fish react when you turn your "Hydrowave" on ? 🤔 waterpossum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjm Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, Lvn2Fish said: It does not take away the need for knowledge of bass migration and movements . It still takes skill to make them bite and to present the lure to them. It’s very very difficult to let a 3/8 ounce jig head sink and intersect a fish swimming 50 ft down . The timing , boat movement , wind , line size . So many different variables just to get it in front of one . Some days that fish will attack with reckless abandon . Many more days he knows somehow that this little minnow is indeed not living . And that’s just a damiki example . Traditional techniques pair nicely with FFS . These techniques are never going away. Example: Pair FFS with crashing a rock crawler . You’re not going to use it like you would in the suspended fish application . But you can still see activity . You see targets to crash the crank into . Occasionally you may pick one off that you see . But it really helps just finding the right things. I don’t really think it’s helped me catch more big fish . These big table rock fish are far more educated than we give them credit for . And their eyesight is completely remarkable . I feel like Ive learned how the bigger fish move and feed at least in the pre spawn . And only this year. And only on one section of lake . Every year is different. And every area of the lake fishes different .This year I watched a group of large bass swim 6 ft down over 100 ft . They moved from 6ft to 40 ft in about 20 seconds . Then after they went down they came right back up and swam up on top of a point in 10 ft of water . What’s fascinating is just watching fish movement and the way they interact with forage and one another . The bigger ones seem to hunt in packs , they roam and they investigate everything that catches there eye . And that’s just one species . The three all act different . Spots have been the least nomadic. Before when I pictured fish migration it would be in a straight line swimming from here to there . They have no rhyme or reason for what they do. A lot of the time its completely random . They go left right up down back wards and straight at you all in a minute. I’ve seen them feeding along side loons in something right out of National Geographic . I understand the worry that it’s somehow going to adversely effect fishing . But I’m telling you there are so so so many fish in this lake . And only a small percentage of those are suspended where you can even see them . Table Rock is an absolute forest . There are sycamore trees out in 100 ft of water that are topping out 20 ft down . They are monsters with limbs extending 50 ft off of them . Cedars that are so thick you can’t even get a lure into them . Ledges and bluffs . Caves and cracks in under water cliffs. There are so many places that hold huge groups of fish that will never be seen on a unit . Like Dock said the area that these fish inhabit is exponential . From 2 ft of water to out over 200ft of water . And everything thing and every piece of cover in between . Sounds like a tool better suited to research than to fishing. I have spent days walking stream banks and watching fish feed and rest and interact; then I have spent other days applying what I learned from those observations with rod and reel. Not so much time on lakes, but what you describe isn't that surprising to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterpossum Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 10 hours ago, fishinwrench said: I wish that someone who is good at livescoping would answer this one..... How do the fish react when you turn your "Hydrowave" on ? 🤔 Do you have a color selector or PH meter in your arsenal? Champ188 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snagged in outlet 3 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 11 hours ago, Lvn2Fish said: I understand the worry that it’s somehow going to adversely effect fishing . But I’m telling you there are so so so many fish in this lake . And only a small percentage of those are suspended where you can even see them . Table Rock is an absolute forest . There are sycamore trees out in 100 ft of water that are topping out 20 ft down . They are monsters with limbs extending 50 ft off of them . Cedars that are so thick you can’t even get a lure into them . Ledges and bluffs . Caves and cracks in under water cliffs. There are so many places that hold huge groups of fish that will never be seen on a unit . Like Dock said the area that these fish inhabit is exponential . From 2 ft of water to out over 200ft of water . And everything thing and every piece of cover in between . Thx!. Would you be able to see the same things with SI/DI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lvn2Fish Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 15 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: Thx!. Would you be able to see the same things with SI/DI? To some extent yes . But there’s just so much of it out there . In my experience it’s so thick in places the SI kind of jumbles together . But I’m not running graphs that are anywhere near as capable as they can be . snagged in outlet 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snagged in outlet 3 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Lvn2Fish said: To some extent yes . But there’s just so much of it out there . In my experience it’s so thick in places the SI kind of jumbles together . But I’m not running graphs that are anywhere near as capable as they can be . Wait till they apply AI to FFS combined with imaging. Who knows what they’ll come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinwrench Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, waterpossum said: Do you have a color selector or PH meter in your arsenal? I never fell for the Color-C-lector, but I burned up a lot of fuel running around testing the pH of this lake and Truman. It was crap like that which likely started me on my path to not trusting biologists. vernon and waterpossum 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjm Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 19 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: testing the pH of this lake and Truman. Does that vary with depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snagged in outlet 3 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 23 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: It was crap like that which likely started me on my path to not trusting biologists. But you’re a biologist 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch f Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, snagged in outlet 3 said: But you’re a biologist 😆 At least he knows the difference between a man and a woman, which is better than some of our Supreme Court judges snagged in outlet 3, Champ188 and fishinwrench 3 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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