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54 minutes ago, Mitch f said:

Apparently the captain of the ship called Mayday in time for “bridge workers”? to start trying to block cars from getting on the bridge… But obviously the people who are already on the bridge were screwed

7 minutes is all the warning they had.   Sounds like plenty of time at first....But then you consider that phone calls had to be made....and then guys that were in the middle of doing something else needed to stop immediately and act accordingly.   

Thankfully it was at 1:00 am, and not during rush hour.   😲 Can you even imagine....! 

 

Something like that could easily happen around STL with barge traffic.  I'm surprised it hasn't already.

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1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

7 minutes is all the warning they had.   Sounds like plenty of time at first....But then you consider that phone calls had to be made....and then guys that were in the middle of doing something else needed to stop immediately and act accordingly.   

Thankfully it was at 1:00 am, and not during rush hour.   😲 Can you even imagine....! 

 

Something like that could easily happen around STL with barge traffic.  I'm surprised it hasn't already.

There have been bridge pilings hit, and at times bridges closed for repair…BUT, they have not completely come unraveled like that one.  That thing was floating on those pilings and when there was a breach the whole friggin thing collapsed….I hope that is not the standard design, but I’m no engineer.  These suspension bridges would surely go if an overhead parted.

 Mike

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5 hours ago, Mitch f said:

the captain of the ship called

Pilot, not Captain, the Pilot would be a local navigator very familiar the local channels and currents that the ship's Captain would not necessarily know about. Ships over a certain size are required to hire a Pilot to enter most ports.    A ship that size doesn't stop very well though and with out the engines wouldn't steer very well, a good reason to have a tugboat in attendance.

Apparently the individuals on the bridge were all workers rather than drivers-

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According to officials, there were eight construction workers on the bridge at the time of the incident. Six are still unaccounted for, and two were rescued.

 

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2 hours ago, nomolites said:

There have been bridge pilings hit, and at times bridges closed for repair…BUT, they have not completely come unraveled like that one.  That thing was floating on those pilings and when there was a breach the whole friggin thing collapsed….I hope that is not the standard design, but I’m no engineer.  These suspension bridges would surely go if an overhead parted.

 Mike

If you watch closely, the piling and piers stay upright.   The bridge deck and super structure simply collapse.   

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I can hear them already 😅 

 

"Yo, Anselmi just called and said to stop filling holes, and go stop traffic". 

"Why"?

"Hell I dunno, that's just what he said ".

"Oh phuck him, he can wait until this tar cools down." 

 

CRASH !!!!!  

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32 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

If you watch closely, the piling and piers stay upright.   The bridge deck and super structure simply collapse.   

Holy crap, you're right !   What in the Sam Hell ?  

And they immediately stated that the bridge was "Completely up to code".   😲 

 

I assumed that it took out the supporting piling.....but it didn't.   Hell, a little tremor could have done the same thing.  

I'm about to develop Bridge phobia here!   😬

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28 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Holy crap, you're right !   What in the Sam Hell ?  

And they immediately stated that the bridge was "Completely up to code".   😲

So are Boeing Doors

"Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor

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A ship that carries +9,000 40' containers and has complete loss of power, is quite a bit of mass plunging into a piling/pier.  Not surprised that it could do that damage to the bridge and cause the superstructure to come unpinned.  A ship this size is quite a bit larger than a Mississippi river barge. 

As these mega container ships keep getting bigger and bigger, and this one is mid-sized, maybe its time safety protocols caught up.  Like what happened in the Suez canal, the one that went aground due to high winds and set off an economic crisis due to the bottleneck of blocked traffic in a major shipping lane.

Yes - tugboat guidance and higher regulation particularly through tricky passages and where loss of life could've been much greater.  Also redundant/auxiliary power supplies, inspections and accountability.  Ship like that shouldn't lose power or control in those locations, ever.

The people who whine and complain about government regulation are the same ones who look for conspiracy crap when stuff like this happens.  

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