60 Years Old and I'm Still Amazed!!

[dtrs5kprs]

The real shame is that none of us who support C&R can ever post another bit of information on here without wondering if it is being used to kill bass. Frankly, I feel kind of foolish for ever trusting that practically everyone on here supported C&R because obviously that is not the case. I'm sure we get a lot of drive-by guests who kill their catch, but sure had no idea so many members still do.

And please don't try to convince me that it doesn't hurt anything to kill a few. It's my opinion that it DOES hurt and you are not going to change that. Far as MDC numbers go, they would not be the first government agency ever to spin their data to support their actions. For whatever reason, they are not inclined to stock bass in Table Rock, so every fish killed is just another gone, leaving only nature to replace it.

Yes, you can legally kill 6 bass a day. But I am not going to give you information that might help you do it, and neither are some other folks who have helped grow this forum into one of the very best anywhere on the internet.

Exactly. Guess I was on the same bus with you and Bill, in believing folks understood resource management. Overpopulation is rarely a problem in a large reservoir, unlike small ponds and county lakes. Just a really sad deal to see how far back we have slipped.

[mjk86]

The real shame is that none of us who support C&R can ever post another bit of information on here without wondering if it is being used to kill bass. Frankly, I feel kind of foolish for ever trusting that practically everyone on here supported C&R because obviously that is not the case. I'm sure we get a lot of drive-by guests who kill their catch, but sure had no idea so many members still do.

And please don't try to convince me that it doesn't hurt anything to kill a few. It's my opinion that it DOES hurt and you are not going to change that. Far as MDC numbers go, they would not be the first government agency ever to spin their data to support their actions. For whatever reason, they are not inclined to stock bass in Table Rock, so every fish killed is just another gone, leaving only nature to replace it.

Yes, you can legally kill 6 bass a day. But I am not going to give you information that might help you do it, and neither are some other folks who have helped grow this forum into one of the very best anywhere on the internet.

Do bass have trouble spawning in table rock? Do they need supplemental stocking?

[mjk86]

Boating and loading boats is a completely different situation. While someone can be a reasonable boater, putting a boat on a trailer in a 3.5 mile an hour current is quite another. The main problem as Fin pointed out is putting the durn trailer in to deep, which was the case again today. The reason for all the guys in the water was to try and hold the boat on the trailer against the current. Was not going to happen, no matter what they did. To do it in Taneycomo in 46 degree water was insane.

To show how easy these boats go on a trailer, I can put my 22' Phoenix on the trailer with just the bunks wet, and completely out of the water the full length. As long as the bunks are wet and I have clearance for the prop, it will slide on as smooth as a baby's bottom.

As far as posting reports, the Aunts Creek thread made me so sick, that until that piece of garbage goes completely away I will probably keep pretty much to myself.

This Forum being the Table Rock Lake Forum has been from the start a pretty much green catch and release forum, probably 95%. Know one is interested in seeing dead fish with bellies full of spawn, I know I'm not.

I had countless emails and messages, and my answer is if that's is whats wanted on here and all the bashing and bickering, I'll just stay off with my reports, until that goes away. It is still here and I'm not posting on fishing.

Maybe you should mention that to buster knifing the much rarer 10lb walleye with a "gut full of bass". How would you feel if I caught a 10lb largemouth, cut it open and found a 14inch largemouth in it? Nobody would give me high fives like they gave him, id probably get death threats. What "makes me so sick" is the nonsense floating around here. Much prefer to cut up a very common 15 inch spot than a not so very common double digit walleye...but they are stocked right so they dont matter? Gimmie a freakin break. You of all people should know how well bass do in table rock, and buster of all people should know to release a 10lb eye.

[Blll]

Just a Beaver Lake guy chiming in. In-Fisherman has champiened the concept of "Selective Harvest". From reading the Beaver Lake forums it seems pretty much a given the crappies and white bass, cats & some stripers should fill the nitch. Rarely see a picture of a bass not in releasable shape. Some discussion about keeping smaller spots but I don't trust that many can always tell the difference from a LM. Walleyes are becoming a kept species too. Personally I let any walleyes over 21" go back to make more. Bad juju is seeing the striper guide pics who kill anything legal that comes in the boat. Somewhere I hear Tim Allen with the baboon call and chest beat. JMO

[mixermarkb]

"Do bass have trouble spawning in table rock? Do they need supplemental stocking?"

It all depends on the year, but yes sometimes they do. All of the white river lakes are managed for flood control only, and if that means the lake jumps up at spawning time and leaves nests too deep, or leaves them on the bank after a fast drawdown, so be it. The spawn and fry survival rates vary often from year to year. Ad that to the largemouth bass virus of a few years ago, and its pretty easy to see why folks get upset about the topic of keeping bass.

[mixermarkb]

If you want to keep a few fish to eat, from time to time, I'm not going to call you out on it. But to come on here, learn how and where from the reports on here, then go catch, keep and fry, and then come back posting about it in the very people's faces who gave you the info to help find fish in the first place, is a douchebag move in my opinion. I don't blame guys a bit for clamming up on the information.

[Quillback]

Do bass have trouble spawning in table rock? Do they need supplemental stocking?

Fry survival is much better in high water years.

[mjk86]

"Do bass have trouble spawning in table rock? Do they need supplemental stocking?"

It all depends on the year, but yes sometimes they do. All of the white river lakes are managed for flood control only, and if that means the lake jumps up at spawning time and leaves nests too deep, or leaves them on the bank after a fast drawdown, so be it. The spawn and fry survival rates vary often from year to year. Ad that to the largemouth bass virus of a few years ago, and its pretty easy to see why folks get upset about the topic of keeping bass.

If you want to keep a few fish to eat, from time to time, I'm not going to call you out on it. But to come on here, learn how and where from the reports on here, then go catch, keep and fry, and then come back posting about it in the very people's faces who gave you the info to help find fish in the first place, is a douchebag move in my opinion. I don't blame guys a bit for clamming up on the information.

Fry survival is much better in high water years.

Thanks for the information. I honestly didnt know, it just seems like they do quite well based on what ive seen and caught. Also, I have NEVER ONCE used the information on here to catch and keep bass. In fact i posted exactly how I catch my table rock fish on here as detailed and explicit as I could make it, and I even posted a few spots to try it out on. None of the table rock reports are ever helpful to me with the exception of enjoying fish pics and reports. I do blame guys for clamming up on information.....its childish nonsense coming from 60 yr old men...time to grow up there fellas. If you think that your reports were never being used to catch and kill fish than you live in a fantasy world.

[Smithvillesteve]

There is an old boy down at Tanneycomo that likes to park his truck at the ramp where we launch and

"watch the show" as he puts it. Last year we had a guy that backed his truck so far into the lake he

couldnt get it out. Had to call a tow service. Very shallow at that ramp and when they are running water is not easy to put your boat on your trailer. Better know what you are doing. But there is always idiots at a boat ramp. I'm retired and have the luxury of fishing during the week. I come home on the weekends. But last week i took a couple of buddies down to Truman for wipers on a saturday. We were trolling in a

cove where a major marina was. Big mistake. Seadoes were getting it between my boat and the bank!!

Unbelievable. We got out of there quickly. These people had no idea. Clueless to what was going on around them. I fish LOZ in the late winter/early spring. Then I'm done. Everybody have a great holiday weekend. Be safe out there!!

[Old plug]

What I see on here a lot is reflection of the national attitude. It go goes on everywhere for the highways and by ways to the lakes and rivers, on the job, in the and even in the church Mr Lilly. That said I do not tell the specifics where and when about spots I fish. The primary reason is because I found it through hard fishing. Even if I told you the specifics you might very well not connect for some reason like pattern change. So why should I send you on a goose chase.I am sure there are allready a ample imput of that. In addition This is aublic forum you know.

I like to see post about tackle line and lures( most of which I regard as way over priced) and media fueled. I like to see post about fly tying, lure painters , jig builders. and other fishing related things like cooking. I like to see post about outboard motor problems and repairs and would like to see more about boat satifacton amd handleing. Technique is another area I like. Awful lot of people do not know they can fish outside of the box. The rest of it I do not need. Most of the resf of it is cause for argument.