Those Europeans........

[Haris122]

Man, sounds like they somehow made fishing in the UK a rich person only, type of hobby. Glad they don't do it the same way over here. I couldn't afford a fishing license that costs several hundred dollars. 

[MoCarp]

1 hour ago, Haris122 said:

Man, sounds like they somehow made fishing in the UK a rich person only, type of hobby. Glad they don't do it the same way over here. I couldn't afford a fishing license that costs several hundred dollars. 

tell me about it, the Brits I know here say how blessed we are on so many places to fish and so cheaply, many spots here you can catch 30-40 carp a day...granted 8-15#ers

but over there they may fish a week for 3-4 bites....they even have to pay for license per rod!...

many take fishing vacations here to the USA.. Austin, and lake fork in Tx have lots of Euro fishing tourists, guides and all

a big one now is Dale Hollow Lake, TN...was a few budding ones in our lakes here but the Bass-pro Bow-fishing tourney has pretty much killed that, 5 years of killing off 150k pounds of the biggest fish each year will do that. The middle stretches of Taney was a spot for some exceptional big carp...couple of the brits I know don't come here anymore, because the big fish seem to be gone from the areas they used to fish, in the small town of  Waddington, NY , just 1000 population,  carp anglers spend over a Million bucks a summer fishing there

considering bank carp anglers don't toss 5 foot wakes, it would have been good for the economy here..mom and pop tackle shops do well in the carp tackle business, a nice niche because wall-mart and bass pro are not going to carry boilees any time soon

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On ‎9‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 9:34 AM, MoCarp said:

makes you want to by some tweed and a split bamboo rod!

No it doesn't.

[bfishn]

On 9/11/2017 at 9:21 AM, MoCarp said:

...the Bass-pro Bow-fishing tourney has pretty much killed that, 5 years of killing off 150k pounds of the biggest fish each year will do that...

I call BS.

[Haris122]

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tell me about it, the Brits I know here say how blessed we are on so many places to fish and so cheaply, many spots here you can catch 30-40 carp a day...granted 8-15#ers

but over there they may fish a week for 3-4 bites....they even have to pay for license per rod!...

many take fishing vacations here to the USA.. Austin, and lake fork in Tx have lots of Euro fishing tourists, guides and all

a big one now is Dale Hollow Lake, TN...was a few budding ones in our lakes here but the Bass-pro Bow-fishing tourney has pretty much killed that, 5 years of killing off 150k pounds of the biggest fish each year will do that. The middle stretches of Taney was a spot for some exceptional big carp...couple of the brits I know don't come here anymore, because the big fish seem to be gone from the areas they used to fish, in the small town of  Waddington, NY , just 1000 population,  carp anglers spend over a Million bucks a summer fishing there

considering bank carp anglers don't toss 5 foot wakes, it would have been good for the economy here..mom and pop tackle shops do well in the carp tackle business, a nice niche because wall-mart and bass pro are not going to carry boilees any time soon

I just find it baffling that things were allowed to get that out of hand there that you have to be essentially rich to fish. Hope Britain is the exception to the economics of fishing. But then again, when I hear stories on this forum on how there's barely any public access in certain states here in the US, that also baffles my mind, that it got to that as well.

[fishinwrench]

22 minutes ago, Haris122 said:

I just find it baffling that things were allowed to get that out of hand there that you have to be essentially rich to fish. Hope Britain is the exception to the economics of fishing. But then again, when I hear stories on this forum on how there's barely any public access in certain states here in the US, that also baffles my mind, that it got to that as well.

That's what begins to happen when you have an over populated piece of land with too much money in circulation.  

[MoCarp]

3 hours ago, bfishn said:

I call BS.

Bass Pro Shops/Tracker Boats US Open Bowfishing Championship. The tournament featured a Big-20 (largest weight for a 20-fish limit) format.

ok keep up here there is math involved....

4 guys shoot a total of 20 fish each, legally that can ONLY shoot 20 buffalo or gar, they can shoot as many carp as they want, so the numbers could be inflated far over that because they cull out the biggest 20 fish on each 4 man teams boat..follow?....

so since 2013---thats 5 years..

.if only 250 boat shoot and kill JUST 250# of fish each x 250 boats that = 62,500 fish per tourney

JUST for that event alone...thats 312,500 pounds of fish....

there are several Bfing tourneys each year on the white river change of lakes

150k is a very lowball estimate

because not everyone shoots 250#....

some can shoot way more than what is weighed in, they just weigh the biggest 20

way more than 250 boats compete on the average over the last 5 years

I think this spring 900 competed, so at 150k over 5 years, I was figuring light...real numbers are far far over that

[bfishn]

Did you ever consider looking up the real numbers instead of making up your own? In 15 minutes of looking I found a quote from MDC stating 13,000 lbs were taken in the 2013 event. Easily found a source for the 2016 event too... a bit over 60,000 lbs.

I'm sure I could dig it all up, but I just don't care.

Your creative math even stabs your own argument in the back with a fish point. If bowfishers were actually harvesting 150,000 lbs a year, after year, after year, the fishery can obviously support that rate of harvest, and would likely suffer without it.

[Smalls21]

3 hours ago, bfishn said:

I call BS.

I will second that BS!!!

2013 was the first US bowfishing tournament held around here. Boats restricted to  Table rock and Bull Shoals

2016 tournament was held on the Mississippi River in Memphis, TN

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