Speaking of TRL Fishing Tournaments . . .

[BassPastor]

26 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

No, I think many guys will get tired/bored with playing the Livescope video game after awhile, and will find other ways to spend their time/money.  

And if you think that they will just quit using forward facing sonar and go back to fishing "blind" you're fooling yourself.     A few hours with no bites and they'll be right back at it......until they finally decide they are bored with it.   At that point it's time to quit making boat payments and put that money towards something that excites them.    Badminton maybe.  😅

Golf will be waiting for them on the other side! 

[TableRockBoater]

14 hours ago, Bushbeater said:

 I do get aggravated when they decide to do circles with the kids on a tube just off the no wake buoy and a couple of times I've pulled my boat out and anchored where they're tubing and rocking my world.

Our cove has that issue, too, since there are a few little resorts nearby.  Each round of that roundy-round amplifies the size and frequency of the wakes, almost as bad as when a few hundred boats go by at the same time after the Kimberling City fireworks.

Frankly, I don't expect vacationers, who don't take their boat out very often, to understand what they are doing, but I do expect tournament boaters to know better, since they get more use and enjoyment out of everyone's lakes than anyone.

Now, wanna talk about wake boats?

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[fshndoug]

Wake boats and kayaks both suck

 

[Phil Lilley]

We're getting more and more wake and bigger boats on Taney.  On Taney, we can't get away from any boat that uses our part of the lake... they all come by here and offer their big wakes.  Even when they're outside my buoys, the wake comes just as big.  But this is my take on all wakes - they're going to happen whether I yell and scream and rant or not.  If I don't want to be waked, I don't go on the lake.  If I don't want my dock to be waked, I should sell and get rid of it.  It's going to happen... like it or not.  It's a battle I'm not going to fight because I will not win.  We buoy and tie our boats up the best way we can to keep them from too much damage and we caution our guests to be careful of wakes - both throwing them and taking them.  When someone throws a wake at me when I'm doing One Cast, sometimes I'll mention it as point of education and sometimes I do get a little irritated by the really nasty ones.  But I won't rant because it's not worth my time.    And I sure won't on here because Wrench will tell me to grow up... or get out of the lake business.  But he'll do in an affectionate way

[Quillback]

1 hour ago, Devan S. said:

At the end of the day, the law is written such that it is absolutely worthless and therefore enforcement is impossible.

Someone please qualitatively define idle speed, no wake?

Being responsible for your wake is even more ambiguous. You put a metal structure directly on the water and subject it to waves(generated from boats and/or wind) day in and day out. Suddenly your responsibility for your wake is useless to damage on a dock short of me directly running into a dock. It would be impossible to prove what is fatigue wear vs. damage due to wake. Especially when were talking bass boats and wakes vs. what the wake boats in the summer churn up. 

 

 

I can tell how Arkansas defines it - 5 MPH (or less).  Had a buddy that got ticketed for a wake in the Prairie Creek (Beaver lake) no wake zone.  He researched it, found out what the law was and took it to court.  The judge himself did not know the what the definition was until my buddy told him.  Anyway he got the ticket tossed as there was no proof that he was going over 5 MPH.  Didn't help that the officer that wrote the ticked did not show up in court.

[Devan S.]

Interesting....Learn something new everyday. Next time I'm on the lake I'm gonna see the wake I can make with 5mph. 

A canoe/kayak with a trolling motor(or strong paddler) would be the biggest law breaking rig out there. 

[Quillback]

I'm not a lawyer, but here is what I found under the Arkansas code on water craft operation.  Nowhere did I see in any of the code anything that mentions "No wake".

Shall operate a motorboat upon the waters of this state within one hundred feet (100') of a designated recreation area, dock, pier, raft, float, anchored boat, dam, intake structure, or other obstruction at a speed exceeding five (5) miles per hour unless a contrary speed limit shall have been established in the designated area. However, in no case shall any motor boat be driven in a manner or at a speed that exceeds the safe and reasonable limits under the existing circumstances;

 

[Lvn2Fish]

10 hours ago, TableRockBoater said:

The fact that some posts here indicate there may be two sides to this, that being disrespectful and breaking the law is something you can blame on the person pointing out the issue, just shows that it is an issue.

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I think we have reached an impasse. I’ll say it again if the wake is generated from outside the no wake zone , then it’s perfectly legal. And if a wave from a bass boat intersects your dock , you claim they are disrespectful? I just don’t see it man. It must be hell living on the lake sitting on your dock and just looking for something to complain about. It’s actually comical to me that you went through all the trouble calling the guy out and then contacting the tournament director . You would be a solid HOA president. And I’m not blaming you , what would I even blame you for ? I think it’s a stupid perspective you have . BTW next time you’re out cruising around the lake just remember that wave your throwing is going to travel all the way to the shore.   So look to your left and right and make sure there isn’t a dock on either side of the lake . Let me know how that goes. Only thing left to do is let us know what cove your in so we can be sure to slow down. Here’s one you can use too, when someone is fishing your dock run down and start the hoist pump up . Then start the boat up and rev it up a few times . I know your kind ... 

[fishinwrench]

A No-Wake violation will never stick if you challenge it.   All you need to do is say that you were only applying enough throttle to keep the boat under control against the wind and waves.  And had you been applying any LESS throttle then you would have been swept into others property, and would have caused damage.  

 

[nomolites]

29 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

A No-Wake violation will never stick if you challenge it.   All you need to do is say that you were only applying enough throttle to keep the boat under control against the wind and waves.  And had you been applying any LESS throttle then you would have been swept into others property, and would have caused damage.  

 

..and that is a true story on LOZ.  I have seen some things torn up by those caught unaware.  I try not to be that guy...but over time dings happen with the number of docks on the lake and the washtub effect of so many boats.  Or should I say ships.

Mike