MOPanfisher Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 Sweet! So if I take up diving and then spearfishing if I can see a big walleye I can shoot it, easy peasy. Just like deer I guess, because nobody ever sees a big deer that they are not able to kill if they want to.😄 Huntingducks117 and Deadstream 2
Flysmallie Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, MOPanfisher said: Sweet! So if I take up diving and then spearfishing if I can see a big walleye I can shoot it, easy peasy. Just like deer I guess, because nobody ever sees a big deer that they are not able to kill if they want to.😄 You alone would be able to end all fishing in Missouri. Well only if you don't shoot yourself in the face. I surprised that any spearfisherman are alive since its so dangerous. Huntingducks117 and tjm 2
Quillback Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 "people also do not know of kill tourneys...FWFS, USOA Spearfishing Nationals 2016 Beaver Lake Arkansas is an example " Interesting, Beaver is fishing better this year than it has in years, at least in my humble opinion. So making a huge assumption that the tourney had an impact on the Beaver fish population, it appears to be a net positive. Maybe it should be an annual event? bfishn, tjm and BilletHead 3
Devan S. Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 9 hours ago, MoCarp said: unless the state tracks this..no one can say, IMHO I'd say yes it effects the larger less numerous fish in the population people also do not know of kill tourneys...FWFS, USOA Spearfishing Nationals 2016 Beaver Lake Arkansas is an example from the videos looks like point blank shooting....love to see bass guys wade in here YAY! You kind of answered it. Your right unless someone tracks this you have absolutely no way of knowing. If AGFC came out and said we have data to show it causes no harm would you change your tune? The only caveat to my question was as compared to rod and reel fishermen. Of which, I believe we can safely establish that most of those that catch a legal walleye or legal striper or legal large bream,(assuming they are targeting them and not a by catch) are keeping them. That completely changes the narrative of the the question and would completely change most peoples answer to the question but likely wont change yours. Why? You're frankly to far into this to turn back now whether it does or doesn't change your answer. You exactly right it is fish hunting. Answer this question very clearly as well: What is the specific delineating feature that makes you okay with any form of legal hunting but not spear fishing? Huntingducks117 1
aarchdale@coresleep.com Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 i guarantee more fish die per day from being deep hooked than from a spear on any lake in Arkansas snagged in outlet 3, tjm, Johnsfolly and 4 others 6 1
BilletHead Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, aarchdale@coresleep.com said: i guarantee more fish die per day from being deep hooked than from a spear on any lake in Arkansas I was patiently waiting for this. This is a fact. Bookoos more fish killed by rod and reel fisherman. Fish of all sizes. BilletHead tjm, Johnsfolly and Quillback 2 1 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
tjm Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 I am semi opposed to catch and release because of all the released rod and reel fish that I've seen dead. We talk about fish handling and care but there are dozens of anglers that have no idea what that means, many think they are doing good when they are in reality wasting a fish that is slowly dying. If I had MoCarp's zeal and energy I would campaign for regulations that made every one eat every carp they catch. And only allow certified anglers to release bass under 20".
Flysmallie Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, tjm said: If I had MoCarp's zeal and energy I would campaign for regulations that made every one eat every carp they catch. And only allow certified anglers to release bass under 20". Well when you get up the strength to do it please do it someplace else. snagged in outlet 3, BilletHead and Huntingducks117 1 1 1
BilletHead Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, tjm said: maybe on a carp forum Knock yourself out and take your buddy with you please 🤐. "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
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