Daryk Campbell Sr Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Good info Seth. It seems that it is just like fishing always is. No magical bait/location/time etc. It could be argued however, not nearly as many people are trying the "big fish" bait. (And I'm ok with that.) As excited as I am about the buzz, I'm just getting to a point in my life to be able to make the trip down a few times a year, I don't think I will appreciate the crowding it may cause. Hopefully I'm wrong. JestersHK 1 Money is just ink and paper, worthless until it switches hands, and worthless again until the next transaction. (me) I am the master of my unspoken words, and the slave to those that should have remained unsaid. (unknown)
Ryan Miloshewski Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: Not a big ole swim bait? Hmmmm No but they work. A lady just last week caught a big brown below Lookout on a hard 8-inch rainbow trout swimbait. Ate it so hard it killed the fish. Guarantee they work. Just right place right time more than anything. And the right fish in the right mood. snagged in outlet 3 and Seth 2 “To those devoid of imagination a blank place on the map is a useless waste; to others, the most valuable part.”--Aldo Leopold
DADAKOTA Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Sounds like a perfect time for a Big Trout Bash. Ryan Miloshewski, Seth and JestersHK 3
snagged in outlet 3 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ryan Miloshewski said: No but they work. A lady just last week caught a big brown below Lookout on a hard 8-inch rainbow trout swimbait. Ate it so hard it killed the fish. Guarantee they work. Just right place right time more than anything. And the right fish in the right mood. Oh I agree. I just don't think they are be all end all for big fish. I believe Rip's fish was caught on a jig too. laker67 1
Ryan Miloshewski Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: Oh I agree. I just don't think they are be all end all for big fish. I believe Rip's fish was caught on a jig too. Clearly not lol. I think you have a better chance of consistently catching more fish in the 5-15-pound range on the bigger baits than anything. At least that is what I've seen. Maybe those big, old fish don't like to move for bait anymore. Seth and laker67 2 “To those devoid of imagination a blank place on the map is a useless waste; to others, the most valuable part.”--Aldo Leopold
snagged in outlet 3 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Ryan Miloshewski said: Clearly not lol. I think you have a better chance of consistently catching more fish in the 5-15-pound range on the bigger baits than anything. At least that is what I've seen. Maybe those big, old fish don't like to move for bait anymore. If I had to guess I would think dead sculpins catch more big browns in MO and AR than anything. Ask any of the 2 dozen people sitting on the boat ramps in AR after a stocking. laker67 1
laker67 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: I believe Rip's fish was caught on a jig too. It also had a stomach full of sowbugs according to a report from AGF. snagged in outlet 3 1
Devan S. Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said: If I had to guess I would think dead sculpins catch more big browns in MO and AR than anything. Ask any of the 2 dozen people sitting on the boat ramps in AR after a stocking. This is a great point....I was at RR one time and working my jig back and a sculpin came out to investigate.....I was pulling a Folly and trying to catch it and a very large rainbow came darting out after it.....totally ignoring my jig just on a bead to get the sculpin. Maybe the way to a real monster is drifting a sculpin or shad under a jug. I can just see it now waves of jugs like on grand floating down taney. snagged in outlet 3 1
Seth Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 I agree with @Ryan Miloshewski on the bigger bait increasing your odds at a bigger fish. These 20+ pound fish are needles in a haystack though. Ryan and I hung out all weekend for the Elfrink and it's very obvious that he has a lot more will power than me when it comes to throwing those big jerkbaits for trophy class trout. It shows because he has a bunch of them and I've yet to break 20" on browns. If he and I drifted from the cable to Fall Creek and he threw only his jerkbait and I threw only my jigs, I'd clobber him on numbers and possibly not break the 20" mark, but he would have multiple that break that mark. The odds are in his favor to catch the largest trout as well, but that lucky cast with a jig could always land in front of 20 pounder. Throwing big baits for browns is more like muskie fishing than trout fishing. In my experience, you fish hours for a few opportunities. Sometimes the stockers will eat those big jerkbaits and give you something to ease the boredom, but not always. Last June, I dedicated about 6 hours of early morning fishing across two days throwing a Luck E Strike RC STX along wooded banks above and below Fall Creek. I had six 20"+ browns rise and two strikes. One I broke off on the hook set and the other tail walked and spit the hook after a few seconds. I think those really big fish are just going to eat whatever is easiest. Camping out by cleaning stations or sitting in the current and letting the water bring a buffet line of scuds right to your mouth are both easy meals. Maybe I am wrong, but my guess for Frank leaving Lilley's dock after being there for so long is due to the heavy generation Taneycomo has had for so long and causing the trout guts to be washed down stream instead of sitting in a pile. It forced him to get out and actually find real food. I hope @Phil Lilley doesn't mind, but I've dubbed my inability to leave the jig rod alone as a case of the Lilley's. It doesn't take long for me to get bored and I have to pick up my jig rod and catch a few to keep me sane. snagged in outlet 3, JestersHK, laker67 and 2 others 5
laker67 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Seth said: I agree with @Ryan Miloshewski on the bigger bait increasing your odds at a bigger fish. These 20+ pound fish are needles in a haystack though. Ryan and I hung out all weekend for the Elfrink and it's very obvious that he has a lot more will power than me when it comes to throwing those big jerkbaits for trophy class trout. It shows because he has a bunch of them and I've yet to break 20" on browns. If he and I drifted from the cable to Fall Creek and he threw only his jerkbait and I threw only my jigs, I'd clobber him on numbers and possibly not break the 20" mark, but he would have multiple that break that mark. The odds are in his favor to catch the largest trout as well, but that lucky cast with a jig could always land in front of 20 pounder. Throwing big baits for browns is more like muskie fishing than trout fishing. In my experience, you fish hours for a few opportunities. Sometimes the stockers will eat those big jerkbaits and give you something to ease the boredom, but not always. Last June, I dedicated about 6 hours of early morning fishing across two days throwing a Luck E Strike RC STX along wooded banks above and below Fall Creek. I had six 20"+ browns rise and two strikes. One I broke off on the hook set and the other tail walked and spit the hook after a few seconds. One very important thing putting the odds in your favor Seth, is that triploids are eaters and not lookers. JestersHK, Seth, snagged in outlet 3 and 1 other 4
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