Seth Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, duckydoty said: I see this one swimming around every now and then. It’s 36-38 inches long and I’m pretty sure breaking the 30 pound mark. I'm coming down at the end of the month and I will try to make a trip over to the dock to say Hello and hopefully catch a glimpse of ol Frank. His buddy Franky was no slouch, but he pales in comparison to this brute!
laker67 Posted September 14, 2018 Author Posted September 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, duckydoty said: I see this one swimming around every now and then. It’s 36-38 inches long and I’m pretty sure breaking the 30 pound mark. Looks somewhat like the one Corky and I saw last fall. I guessed at 25-26. but that was a year ago. I got a #14 sowbug tailored made for that fish. trythisonemv 1
snagged in outlet 3 Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, laker67 said: Hello Pete. The article says that they do not attempt to spawn. So the ones that showed up at the dam last year must have been there to feed. I'll be down in October again to see what's up. laker67 1
Quillback Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 Found this on the web. What is a Triploid Fish? In simple terms, a triploid fish is merely a fish that is sterile. Triploid fish have three sets of chromosomes, unlike a fertile fish that have two sets of chromosomes (a diploid fish). Triploids are common in many industries; Seedless watermelons are triploids, as are bananas. Triploids are also naturally occurring. A triploid fish is not a genetically modified organism. The genes of the fish have not been manipulated or changed in any way and do not result in the expression of any foreign or novel proteins or tissues. Triploid fish simply have 3 sets of chromosomes instead of 2 and for this reason are not able to reproduce, but are otherwise normal fish. Recent legislation codified in the Fish and Game Code describes the rational to use sterile fish for recreational purposes. These include the conservation of native fish genotypes (genetics) and the protection of endangered or threatened species. For these and other reasons the California Department of Fish and Wildlife is producing triploid trout eggs that hatch into fish, are raised, and ultimately result in sterilized trout released for recreational purposes. Triploid trout are created by forcing the egg to retain a chromosome that is normally ejected during egg development. There are many ways to do this; the California Department of Fish and Wildlife uses the pressure shock treatment method. As you can see in the graphic below, in fertilized trout eggs, normally a chromosome (N) is kicked out of the egg as a polar body at some stage of development. Using pressure treatment at a specific time in the egg development, the polar body and chromosome is retained. With 3 chromosomes the fish is sterile and cannot reproduce. snagged in outlet 3, BilletHead, fishin_addict and 3 others 3 3
Foghorn Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 Hey Rick, are you going after hat big old brown with that fancy $7 yard sale rod?
tjm Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 There has been enough concern over male triploids attempting to spawn and disrupting native spawns that Alaska manipulates their triploids to be all female. I recall a study of Atlantic salmon that showed both male and female triploids going through all the motions of spawn, nesting and aggression, and the males producing milt., Norway I think. I think the key thing in Mo. is we have no native trout for them to corrupt nor do our trout spawn in tail waters nor the trout parks? How can the angler tell triploids from real fish? I have read about some test that involve blood cells and microscopes. Did the agency stocking the triploids mark them in some way? MoCarp 1
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted September 14, 2018 Root Admin Posted September 14, 2018 In Taney, they clipped their adipose fin. MoCarp and tjm 2
Quillback Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 They are fish from the same hatchery as the "normal" browns, they aren't some special strain. In the unlikely possibility that they do spawn, it's the same as if the hatchery browns stocked in the river spawn. They aren't some kind of freaky genetic mutation. Terrierman 1
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