COVID-19 - Coronavirus 2019-nCoV

[BilletHead]

9 minutes ago, tjm said:

But we are really no more civilized that we were 500 years ago, when we did this, are we? Most of us can claim to be descended from those who used smallpox and cholera to win ownership of the Americas. And even those who did this thought or claimed that they were the most civilized peoples of the world. Throughout history one side in every war has claimed to be superior beings to the animals they were attempting to kill, often enough both sides claimed the high ground. I don't think civilized man is nearly as commendable as his remotest savage ancestors in such matters, it appears that the more civilized a tribe is the easier it is for them to devalue the lives of other tribes.

  Oh I think we are way more civilized at least I am. Now would you unleash a killer virus on anyone?

[tjm]

Congratulations. Can you say that with authority and proof about  any or all politicians worldwide?

[Quillback]

43 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

             Yep and like most viruses NO ONE produced it. Manifested on its own and for those of you that didn't read the link I posted some native Americans were infected with it on purpose. So sad and like I said I want to believe civilized nations do not think this way. 

We are fortunate to be living where we are and in this time.  Covid is serious for sure, but throughout human history people have been dealing with infectious, deadly diseases.  Smallpox, cholera, malaria, bubonic plague, typhus, tuberculosis, polio, to name a few.  Childbirth for women was always a roll of the dice.  Any infection was a serious matter.  

Always going to be a war between us and the microbes.

[BilletHead]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

Congratulations. Can you say that with authority and proof about  any or all politicians worldwide?

           I asked that question to you man,

  If were not civilized and we acted like some of our for fathers we would be a sad world. I would say we are more civilized are you? 

[Mitch f]

2 hours ago, Quillback said:

Always going to be a war between us and the microbes.

Yes and Artificial Intelligence and Machines.

Terminator here we come. Can you imagine this world in 100 years? Not sure I want to. I hope for the best

[Jerry Rapp]

100 years ago world war 1 was ending.  Automobiles were still a rarity.  Fishing lures?  Some wooden topwaters?  Monofilimant line was 30 years into the future.  What do you think those folks would have thought the world would be like in 100 years?  

[tjm]

 

2 hours ago, tjm said:

Congratulations

Billethead, You have taken exactly the same view of self superiority that the Europeans had when they treated the indigenous peoples of Africa, the Americas, Australia and India as subhumans. You chose to be superior to you parents and grandparents.  I don't believe you. And when I said "we" in  my previous post, I meant it as encompassing all of mankind. If you want to take it to a personal level, make a choice about a loved ones life and that of a stranger, both in fatal danger and you can save only one, which is it? You wife is being attacked, do you remain civilized and reason with the attacker while calling the police or do turn to violence and retaliation?  The mere fact that we in possibly the most advanced country of the world still have jails and a criminal code is solid evidence that we as a nation are still not civilized. The fact that we still feel the need for a military is solid evidence that we as a nation do not believe other nations are civilized. Rather a pointless discussion, like the merits of one religion over another, the speakers choice will always be the right one.

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But we are really no more civilized that we were 500 years ago, when we did this!! , are we?

 

[Mitch f]

2 minutes ago, Jerry Rapp said:

100 years ago world war 1 was ending.  Automobiles were still a rarity.  Fishing lures?  Some wooden topwaters?  Monofilimant line was 30 years into the future.  What do you think those folks would have thought the world would be like in 100 years?  

I would say technology is changing at an unbelievable rate compared to the change we’ve had in the last 100 years. 

[Terrierman]

1 hour ago, BilletHead said:

           I asked that question to you man,

  If were not civilized and we acted like some of our for fathers we would be a sad world. I would say we are more civilized are you? 

I'd say that depends on how hungry I get.  

[BilletHead]

11 minutes ago, tjm said:

 

Billethead, You have taken exactly the same view of self superiority that the Europeans had when they treated the indigenous peoples of Africa, the Americas, Australia and India as subhumans. You chose to be superior to you parents and grandparents.  I don't believe you. And when I said "we" in  my previous post, I meant it as encompassing all of mankind. If you want to take it to a personal level, make a choice about a loved ones life and that of a stranger, both in fatal danger and you can save only one, which is it? You wife is being attacked, do you remain civilized and reason with the attacker while calling the police or do turn to violence and retaliation?  The mere fact that we in possibly the most advanced country of the world still have jails and a criminal code is solid evidence that we as a nation are still not civilized. The fact that we still feel the need for a military is solid evidence that we as a nation do not believe other nations are civilized. Rather a pointless discussion, like the merits of one religion over another, the speakers choice will always be the right one.

 

              When I say civilized I am talking treating fellow human beings the same. No bias for race creed or color of our fellow man. Would I defend my spouse of loved one yes for sure if needed to and Our country certainly.  Yes if threatened we will all do something. Did our for fathers need to give the natives small pox on purpose? Did our for fathers need to enslaved men women and children from another country? You still have not answered my question I asked. We as humans have come along way by learning. Again do you feel more civilized than our for fathers? You take it as I am saying I am superior to others? Where did you get that idea? When did I say that?