Terrierman Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, N9BOW said: I get it Brother!.. Just feeling scrappy tonight... Actually past my bed time Gnight! Have one more. You'll only sleep better! N9BOW 1
Bushbeater Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 250 pages of arguing and not one person has changed their opinion. We should most likely talk fishing and let this BS go. Ryan Miloshewski, Deadstream, Terrierman and 3 others 5 1
Mitch f Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Terrierman said: We seldom do. Forgive me for a moment. I watched a special last night about Justice Clarence Thomas. He grew up as poor as poor can be, Came out of it strong as strong could be and into 60's black power. Huey Newton, Stokey Carmichael and the like. Got into a top shelf undergrad school and then Yale. After Yale, it was MO assistant AG working for Jack Danforth. And then, one day, who knows when or why, Ronald Raygun picked him. The backstory and how he went from far L to about as far R right as I've ever seen was quite something. Mitch, you might not, probably don't remember those black power guys. But back then it was a different day, I remember the whole Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas thing is what basically gave Rush Limbaugh his start. It actually also turned Andrew Brietbart into a hard core conservative. Ben Carson and Condoleeza Rice Both grew up in very poor inner city homes and made something great of themselves as well. Johnsfolly, Deadstream and Terrierman 3 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
jdmidwest Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Mitch f said: Jan 31st he proposes restrictive travel ban. Pelosi proposes 'NO Ban Act" to stop Trumps Travel Ban. Even in early March there were only 103 cases in the US. They were still bringing voters across from Mexico. Nasty man was trying to stop that. Mitch f 1 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
jdmidwest Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Gavin said: Think y’all need to get together for a WFT style fireside chat. Grievances get settled with a lawn chair take out, or wrestling match but all usually ends slightly bloody but well. In this day of social distancing I’d do pugilist sticks or the staff while balancing on a log over the river. Loser gets a bath to wash the Covid off. How about pistols at 30 paces? Why can't we all just get along. After Nov. 8, you probably won't even hear about it. Mitch f 1 "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
N9BOW Posted May 20, 2020 Author Posted May 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bushbeater said: 250 pages of arguing and not one person has changed their opinion. We should most likely talk fishing and let this BS go. nah... thats not right........was good till around 36 pages or so.. then politics really started to infect.. much like Wuhan Pneumonia.
Al Agnew Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: The only thing related to politics that should matter to any of us is HOW WE ARE DOING. I'm doing great, and all of my friends are doing great. Everyone in my 5 county zone seems to be doing great. Therefore whatever the POTUS has been doing....I support it....cuz it's working really good for everyone I know and care about. If your finances and your life sucks right now, and you have friends/family that have been suffering through life for the last 4 years, and it's all Trump's fault.... I'm really Sorry. Suck it up. Seriously though, how's your life? Good? Then maybe quit bitching and get on the Trump train 🤔 And I'll say this again...I may be in the minority but I care about a hell of a lot more than how well I'm doing. I'm doing well because of ME, and my wife, and some fairly good luck along the way. It has nothing to do with who is president. But I care a whole lot about what is going to happen in the future on a lot of different levels. I care about the world we are leaving for our children, or my case my beloved nieces and nephews. I care about the environment. I care about energy, water supply, external threats. And right now I have passed the "concerned" point and am into full blown seriously worried about the future of this country. Not just because of this virus, though I'm pretty darned concerned about the possibilities of further mutations that could bring this thing to a whole other level. No, I'm worried about what this virus has shown us about how stupid, selfish, and anti-science we are. And how polarized we have become. It's getting past the point of being polarized, and getting closer to the point of outright hatred for everybody who doesn't believe the way your side believes (no matter which side that is). I stated on a thread on Facebook the other day that I thought the people who were participating in the thread, who were complaining mightily about their governor "shutting down the state" when the whole thing was a media hoax, were being self-centered and whiny that they couldn't go get their hair cut, which several had already complained about. In response, one of them came back on with a long diatribe about how I was nothing but a libtard, and that he hoped I would lose my house, all my money, my retirement, be reduced to having to scrounge in dumpsters to keep from starving, and to finally die of some REAL horrible disease--along with all the other libtards. And he was serious. And his "friends" on the thread came back and agreed wholeheartedly with him. Folks, it ain't that far from feeling like that to taking action, when you feel that strongly. As for Trump, I had hopes. I didn't vote for him, but I hoped that as a political outsider he just might take the tack that he was the president of ALL the people, listen to all sides, and govern as a leader, not as a Republican. He could have. He could have done a lot to pull us together. He could have been the one adult in the room. But instead, he doubled down, heck, quadrupled down, on divisiveness. And before you say that the Democrats were the ones attacking him, guess what...it takes two to be divisive. Trump didn't start every fight, but he started some of them, and he responded to any perceived opposition with nuclear tweets. He became the biggest child in the room, not the responsible adult. I am not second-guessing his responses to this pandemic. He made mistakes, but who knows if anybody else would have done better. He didn't have the country prepared, but that was a problem that was a LONG time coming through multiple administrations...the experts have been warning of this for decades, but nobody took it seriously enough. However, I AM faulting him for the apparent lack of any plan at this late point on what to do from this point on. We have forgotten that we are all Americans, that we all want pretty much the same things, but disagree on how to achieve them. We have let the radicals on "our" side, whichever one it is, define what the other side is, instead of listening to the other side. We have slid down the slope of considering those who disagree with us as enemies with nefarious agendas, not as simply fellow Americans with different ideas, life experiences, and priorities. It scares me. Bushbeater, Deadstream, MrGiggles and 2 others 3 1 1
Terrierman Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bushbeater said: 250 pages of arguing and not one person has changed their opinion. We should most likely talk fishing and let this BS go. Feel free to check out, snowflake. The rest of us will carry on in our own peculiar ways. ColdWaterFshr 1
Terrierman Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Al Agnew said: And I'll say this again...I may be in the minority but I care about a hell of a lot more than how well I'm doing. I'm doing well because of ME, and my wife, and some fairly good luck along the way. It has nothing to do with who is president. But I care a whole lot about what is going to happen in the future on a lot of different levels. I care about the world we are leaving for our children, or my case my beloved nieces and nephews. I care about the environment. I care about energy, water supply, external threats. And right now I have passed the "concerned" point and am into full blown seriously worried about the future of this country. Not just because of this virus, though I'm pretty darned concerned about the possibilities of further mutations that could bring this thing to a whole other level. No, I'm worried about what this virus has shown us about how stupid, selfish, and anti-science we are. And how polarized we have become. It's getting past the point of being polarized, and getting closer to the point of outright hatred for everybody who doesn't believe the way your side believes (no matter which side that is). I stated on a thread on Facebook the other day that I thought the people who were participating in the thread, who were complaining mightily about their governor "shutting down the state" when the whole thing was a media hoax, were being self-centered and whiny that they couldn't go get their hair cut, which several had already complained about. In response, one of them came back on with a long diatribe about how I was nothing but a libtard, and that he hoped I would lose my house, all my money, my retirement, be reduced to having to scrounge in dumpsters to keep from starving, and to finally die of some REAL horrible disease--along with all the other libtards. And he was serious. And his "friends" on the thread came back and agreed wholeheartedly with him. Folks, it ain't that far from feeling like that to taking action, when you feel that strongly. As for Trump, I had hopes. I didn't vote for him, but I hoped that as a political outsider he just might take the tack that he was the president of ALL the people, listen to all sides, and govern as a leader, not as a Republican. He could have. He could have done a lot to pull us together. He could have been the one adult in the room. But instead, he doubled down, heck, quadrupled down, on divisiveness. And before you say that the Democrats were the ones attacking him, guess what...it takes two to be divisive. Trump didn't start every fight, but he started some of them, and he responded to any perceived opposition with nuclear tweets. He became the biggest child in the room, not the responsible adult. I am not second-guessing his responses to this pandemic. He made mistakes, but who knows if anybody else would have done better. He didn't have the country prepared, but that was a problem that was a LONG time coming through multiple administrations...the experts have been warning of this for decades, but nobody took it seriously enough. However, I AM faulting him for the apparent lack of any plan at this late point on what to do from this point on. We have forgotten that we are all Americans, that we all want pretty much the same things, but disagree on how to achieve them. We have let the radicals on "our" side, whichever one it is, define what the other side is, instead of listening to the other side. We have slid down the slope of considering those who disagree with us as enemies with nefarious agendas, not as simply fellow Americans with different ideas, life experiences, and priorities. It scares me. True for some not all. Not me for one,
Bushbeater Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 Snowflake? That's funny. Actually I thought I agreed with most of your opinions but apparently tonight you want to stir the pot. Go for it.
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