MDC to trap and study turkeys...

[BilletHead]

12 minutes ago, nomolites said:

Turkeys were reintroduced by trapping into areas where they were not present, And did quite well.  I tend to agree with BH as I spend many hours in a stand bowhunting and predators are more prevalent in my area now than they have ever been.  I am carrying a PMR30 while hunting this year to do my part to correct that.

Mike

               Yes Mike the turkeys were native here also but hunted to death and about expired out of part of that native range. MDC did a heck of a job getting them back. In 1976 I found my first wild turkey feather and no season here. Then My first roost tree with droppings. Not long after that my first wild bird sighting. it has been a success story. 

         Take out a few predators please Mike!

[BilletHead]

48 minutes ago, tjm said:

I don't think MDC bought them back like they did the cougars and rattlers  though.  

        @tjm,

  Can you please get me a link to this too? I like to read and learn and would be very interested in reading about this!

       

[Dutch]

We don’t have a shortage at the farm.  Today I saw 3 groups; 18 young with hens, 5 toms, and a mixed group of 50 in the hay bottom.

[BilletHead]

15 minutes ago, Dutch said:

We don’t have a shortage at the farm.  Today I saw 3 groups; 18 young with hens, 5 toms, and a mixed group of 50 in the hay bottom.

             Nice!    I'm jealous.  

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, ness said:

Coyotes, foxes and turkeys interfere with my enjoyment of hunting quail and pheasant. I think they should be eradicated. I can't imagine why they were ever reintroduced. Where's a good biologist when you need him??

I have close personal friend that is a good one.  But if his findings don't fit the goal they are sometimes heavily edited, and if he makes a stink about the editing he might lose his job.   I'd love to share some of the BS, but I can't for fear that it might cause him grief.

I'll let a small kitten out of the bag for ya though, and tell ya that the big crawdad study that caused crawdads at baitshops to be no-more, was a twisted crock of BS done statewide just to screw over one single little person because of a  petty personal vindetta.   

I suspect the CWD ordeal to be somewhat similar in causality.

[MoCarp]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I have close personal friend that is a good one.  But if his findings don't fit the goal they are sometimes heavily edited, and if he makes a stink about the editing he might lose his job.   I'd love to share some of the BS, but I can't for fear that it might cause him grief.

I'll let a small kitten out of the bag for ya though, and tell ya that the big crawdad study that caused crawdads at baitshops to be no-more, was a twisted crock of BS done statewide just to screw over one single little person because of a  petty personal vindetta.   

I suspect the CWD ordeal to be somewhat similar in causality.

Imagine that ...political caca influence on game management....I curious to why numbers are down...people who trap get fewer every day......unsure where one might even sell hides anymore

[Gavin]

Thinking turkeys are in decline due to changes in ag practices over time. Pesticides, no till, etc. Still see lots of turkey in undeveloped areas. Not so much on Ag land. See plenty in the St Louis Suburbs. Saw a flock of 10-12 feeding in the SE clover loop at Lindbergh and Page the other day. See them often near the Bayer Campus.

[tjm]

1 hour ago, MoCarp said:

..unsure where one might even sell hides anymore

Try Peterman Fur & Trapping Supplies -  Weaubleau, MO -he's on Facebook

or- https://www.gfwco.com/

You may not know NAFA (the big Canadian fur auction) bankrupted last year after mailing out $millions in bad checks  to trappers. And of course this Covid stuff has hurt foreign buyers traveling. Stick with coyotes, no market at all for coons, very little for cats. Our coyotes aren't what the market wants but they might sell, other stuff not likely.  To make trapping worth the gasoline you need to do livestock protection or nuisance work. 

[nomolites]

13 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Why a PMR 30?   Just curious.  

1) I have one

2) It is VERY light, packs a punch, and is accurate.

[ollie]

I don't know where everyone else lives, but in my neck of the woods I see them all the time! Last year right down the road from where I work I must have seen over 40 of them in a yard! Yes, over 40. Around the bottom lands of Shoal Creek they are everywhere.